DarthMetalliCube said:
Jumpin said:
Bernie or Bust strikes again.
Honestly, the left in the US are victims of themselves. You're so far brainwashed by the Bernie Cult youtube and social media propaganda that you can't even see how obvious it is that Biden is leagues better than Trump.
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You've got some nerve calling me brainwashed. I'm about the most open minded person you'll meet bud. I spend dozens of hours listening to speeches and lectures, reading comments, and digesting information from a myriad of different perspectives and sources, and reach my own conclusions. I have a degree in history and have also studied sociology and political science. I'd wager that's more than many could say, who have their information spoon fed for them and don't seem to use critical thinking. There were MULTIPLE candidates this cycle I'd have likely supported beyond Bernie - Tulsi, Yang, and Williamson for starters. And I don't even see eye to eye w/Bernie 100%, it's just he's the closest aligned to me that actually has a chance. Not that I need to justify myself to you.
That's also rich coming from someone who I assume marches in lockstep with everything the Democrats do and gets behind every sellout candidate they push to the forefront no matter how much of a shady record they have, voting, policy, or otherwise. If you want to talk cult-like traits, well, attacking or shaming people who dare venture outside of these group think organizations is a pretty big one, especially when these organizations throw up some lead figure who you're just automatically supposed to support with no questions asked. Maybe look in the mirror. And while you're at it take another look at Biden. The guy has been on the wrong side of a slew of major issues over the decades. His voting record is closer to a Neocon than a liberal Democrat. Even Trump is against free trade agreements for gods sake and is probably less of a foreign interventionalist too. He's equal to Trump AT BEST. And to us here in the Midwest he's probably WORSE.
This bullshit is just a no win game and frankly I'm sick of playing. I don't owe the Democrats shit. Put up a candidate I can get behind, otherwise, no sale!
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It doesn't seem your dozens of hours of listening to speeches and lectures, and "reading comments" digestion, or any of your American education has done you any favours in being able to think rationally. It's obvious that Biden is better than Trump whether you be a progressive (especially if you're a progressive), or just someone who wants a functional politician.
Also, you're accusing me of somehow being a Democratic Party in the US? Not only am I not from the US, I've never even been on the same continent. I'm a democratic socialist on the far left.
The only mistake I made was assuming you were a progressive/leftist in any way, or that you cared about the plights of others, or that you might have wanted some semblance of a sane and rational leadership. Clearly, that's not the case.
tsogud said:
Jumpin said:
Bernie or Bust strikes again.
Honestly, the left in the US are victims of themselves. You're so far brainwashed by the Bernie Cult youtube and social media propaganda that you can't even see how obvious it is that Biden is leagues better than Trump.
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I know being a jackass is free but please control yourself.
No one is owed a vote. Not Sanders. Not Biden. Not Trump. Not Warren. They have to earn them.
I loathe Trump and dislike Biden but if people want to vote for them or not it's their right.
Anyone can see Biden is better than Trump but that's not enough for some folks to vote for him.
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Civility is overrated.
This is a political forum on a video game website, not kindergarten.
And simply stating "Bernie or Bust" in more elaborate and non-denominational phrasing does not make it any less damaging to the progressive movement. While you don't have to vote, you absolutely should if you care about politics, it's foolish not to.