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PortisheadBiscuit said:
Honestly before the documentary I was on the fence about MJ, afterwards and doing a bit of research on guys making the claim (who happen to being suing the estate for 100s of millions) I now believe he's innocent. The documentary was extremely one sided and if you were to only watch it and not do any further digging, its easy to fall prey to their compelling and graphic story.

There are so many holes in their story upon further research. One factoid that sticks out in my mind is Safechucks's mother claiming she was so happy when she learned MJ passed. "I was so glad he wouldnt be able to hurt anymore children". Um yeah MJ died in 2009, but Safechuck claims he didn't realize he was abused until 2013. Is she a time traveler?


His mom said that, during the 2003 trial, her son told her what Michael did but he still love him. He made her swear to be quiet. It's all in the doc. Safechuck thought it was love, not abuse. Even when Michael died, he still loved him.

And people are quick to forget that it was partly these guy's testimony on behalf of Michael that kept him out of prison in his other cases.



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What if Michael Jackson looked like Lil Wayne? Would that have any effect on anyone's opinion of him?



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You mean this book?

The same one that was not only legal to purchase, it was also a Best Seller? Meaning every other person in the shopping mall had one? 
Isn't it telling that the only thing the FBI found that could be taken as even remotely pedophilic is an artbook that is publically available for sale? Other than that, that didn't find a damn thing.

https://vault.fbi.gov/Michael%20Jackson

https://vault.fbi.gov/Michael%20Jackson/Michael%20Jackson%20Part%2007%20of%2007/view

"Writer requests that captioned items be closed. There are no outstanding leads or evidence items."

So, while investing evidence for a 2005 trial, originally scheduled to last 5-8 months but was dismissed with Jackson being acquitted in less than 4 months because the prosecution's case was THAT laughably bad, the FBI did not finding anything significant, concrete, or noteworthy, that could suggest Michael Jackson was a child molester.



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d21lewis said:
What if Michael Jackson looked like Lil Wayne? Would that have any effect on anyone's opinion of him?

Honestly, Lil Wayne would be an improvement over what he looked like from 2000 until his death.

With that said, most certainly.



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d21lewis said:
PortisheadBiscuit said:
Honestly before the documentary I was on the fence about MJ, afterwards and doing a bit of research on guys making the claim (who happen to being suing the estate for 100s of millions) I now believe he's innocent. The documentary was extremely one sided and if you were to only watch it and not do any further digging, its easy to fall prey to their compelling and graphic story.

There are so many holes in their story upon further research. One factoid that sticks out in my mind is Safechucks's mother claiming she was so happy when she learned MJ passed. "I was so glad he wouldnt be able to hurt anymore children". Um yeah MJ died in 2009, but Safechuck claims he didn't realize he was abused until 2013. Is she a time traveler?


His mom said that, during the 2003 trial, her son told her what Michael did but he still love him. He made her swear to be quiet. It's all in the doc. Safechuck thought it was love, not abuse. Even when Michael died, he still loved him.

And people are quick to forget that it was partly these guy's testimony on behalf of Michael that kept him out of prison in his other cases.

I don't buy that for one sec, what kind of mom obeys her child to keep quiet in such a situation?

And no one is forgetting these guy's testimonies in the previous case(s), that's one of the main reasons people don't buy their stories now. 



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PAOerfulone said:
d21lewis said:
What if Michael Jackson looked like Lil Wayne? Would that have any effect on anyone's opinion of him?

Honestly, Lil Wayne would be an improvement over what he looked like from 2000 until his death.

With that said, most certainly.

Yeah, he looked like a Vampire crossed with Joan Rivers for the final 10 years or so of his life, lol. Lil Wayne would be an improvement for sure. 



shikamaru317 said:
PAOerfulone said:

Honestly, Lil Wayne would be an improvement over what he looked like from 2000 until his death.

With that said, most certainly.

Yeah, he looked like a Vampire crossed with Joan Rivers for the final 10 years or so of his life, lol. Lil Wayne would be an improvement for sure. 

Yeah. But "in his prime" he looked pretty friendly and nice. His appearance in the 70s probably would have been more off-putting for mainstream America.



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PortisheadBiscuit said:
d21lewis said:

His mom said that, during the 2003 trial, her son told her what Michael did but he still love him. He made her swear to be quiet. It's all in the doc. Safechuck thought it was love, not abuse. Even when Michael died, he still loved him.

And people are quick to forget that it was partly these guy's testimony on behalf of Michael that kept him out of prison in his other cases.

I don't buy that for one sec, what kind of mom obeys her child to keep quiet in such a situation?

And no one is forgetting these guy's testimonies in the previous case(s), that's one of the main reasons people don't buy their stories now. 

Especially when the person who allegedly did this to her son is undergoing a criminal trial for the exact same crime committed to another child, where if he was convicted of all counts and charges pressed against him, would lock him away for 25 years. Not to mention ruin his entire career and reputation in the process. 

If there was ever a time to put Michael away and expose him as a pedophile it was that trial. Not only was Michael acquitted of all charges, he was acquitted RESOUNDINGLY. 



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shikamaru317 said:
PAOerfulone said:

Honestly, Lil Wayne would be an improvement over what he looked like from 2000 until his death.

With that said, most certainly.

Yeah, he looked like a Vampire crossed with Joan Rivers for the final 10 years or so of his life, lol. Lil Wayne would be an improvement for sure. 

One of the oddest things about the Jackson family is how so many of them decided to mutilate their noses/faces. Even Janet, who IMO at one time was one of the hottest women in the world. 



Jackson's estate will take on the fraud, lies, deception of these two accusers. Just like 2005 Jackson was proven innocent, innocent of all charges against him. Bring on the court case and the defense lawyers will cross examine and tear apart the accusers stories and expose them as liars, fraud and fortune chasers. Both accusers are struggling financially and they want a massive pay day by suing Jackson's estate. Why are so many people blindly believe the witch hunt against Jackson? I did not watch the documentary and I refuse to listen to liars that try to destroy legacy of celebrities. Jackson has been dead for 10 years and he can not even defend himself against these vicious lies made against him.

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