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SvennoJ said:

I already bought it, has been quite the nightmare the past 24 hours. However windows is reinstalled, programs are still there, and I'm back to my original problem. DS4 is not working correctly with Ori and not at all with FH4. The only 2 games I have tried so far. At least windows is recognizing it as a controller again instead of just an audio device.

It might be a lot easier to pick up a refurbished xbox one controller. MS clearly does not like the DS4 lol.

Yep, that's the only solution without risking breaking windows again. MS Support tried different drivers in a different remote assist app then send me off to Sony support to get better drivers from them. Sony support had me test PS4 remote play, then apologized that they can't guarantee their products working with windows correctly outside of remote play. XBox controller it is then. That should save a lot of headaches in the long run. It's a struggle every time getting a DS4 to work with games, although never as bad before as corrupting drivers needing a re-install. Beware before following online help.

20 years later, windows is still plug 'n pray! I can't say which customer support is better. Sony was a bit faster to answer, MS tried for hours to get the problem resolved, even going to sony support sites to look up the model of the controller I'm using.

Anyway do not follow advice from this thread :/
https://forums.forzamotorsport.net/turn10_postst131792_-INVESTIGATING--DS4-controller-not-working.aspx

Sucks your having issue's with the DS4, but I can't help but laugh at the irony of you basically having to buy into XB in some manner to game. lol. At least it's just a controller. This is a great example of why so many people buy consoles. Many couldn't or just wouldn't go to the hassle you have and would just go to the store, buy the cheapest laptop possible for their computing needs, have the stores tech support transfer everything over, and also buy a console/hybrid. Way less headaches all around. They just wouldn't end up with the all in one solution you will have when you've got everything functioning properly. The more complex you make something, the more kinks your going to have to work out. That's just life. Gotta fight the little battles to win the war. Seems like the sea's are starting to settle a bit for you though.



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EricHiggin said:

Sucks your having issue's with the DS4, but I can't help but laugh at the irony of you basically having to buy into XB in some manner to game. lol. At least it's just a controller. This is a great example of why so many people buy consoles. Many couldn't or just wouldn't go to the hassle you have and would just go to the store, buy the cheapest laptop possible for their computing needs, have the stores tech support transfer everything over, and also buy a console/hybrid. Way less headaches all around. They just wouldn't end up with the all in one solution you will have when you've got everything functioning properly. The more complex you make something, the more kinks your going to have to work out. That's just life. Gotta fight the little battles to win the war. Seems like the sea's are starting to settle a bit for you though.

Yep, pretty ironic. Get the game for $1 with game pass, got to buy a $30 controller to play it. But eh, I get to play it on a higher frame rate than the tv supports and don't have to wait until I can use the tv. Plus once my data cap resets (in 4 days) I can check out some more games from game pass.

The cheapest laptop plus xbox one x would have been the same price in the end. This screen is much better though. I still have my old laptop sitting next to it and this one just puts that to shame. It even supports some form of HDR for movies. Contrast is really good. I'm quite happy with my purchase, it's just a struggle with windows every time you upgrade.

My old xbox live game tag still works, no problems there. Plus the best thing is, starting games from SSD. I really hope next gen consoles have at least some sort of hybrid solution.


On the flip side, I just downgraded my Netflix subscription. Just as I'm using it less, and had already set it to SD to save bandwidth, they come with a price hike to 13.99 a month for HD. No thank you. When Netflix started it was $7 a month for HD with multiple screens. Twice as expensive now...



SvennoJ said:

Success! I picked up a wired 360 controller, works flawlessly. Should have done that in the first place.

The benchmark test looks pretty promising as well. Good time ahead.

I see it's showing 5.02GB of VRAM but I thought it was pretty typical for it to usually show up around 5.7GB-5.8GB VRAM for a 6GB card. Maybe have a look in the Nvidia control panel and check out the specs and make sure it shows the full 6GB. I'd imagine the benchmark is just misreading the actual proper total.



EricHiggin said:

I see it's showing 5.02GB of VRAM but I thought it was pretty typical for it to usually show up around 5.7GB-5.8GB VRAM for a 6GB card. Maybe have a look in the Nvidia control panel and check out the specs and make sure it shows the full 6GB. I'd imagine the benchmark is just misreading the actual proper total.

I guess, it says dedicated video memory 6144 MB GDDR5, total available 14257 MB (shared system memory 8113 MB)

Who knows, the 32 GB flash card is actually 28.8 GB
The 256 GB SSD is actually 237 GB
The 1TB HDD is actually 931 GB

Cutting corners everywhere!

So far so good, I played FH4 for almost 2 hours, silky smooth, no hickups. The CPU temp did go up to 95c max recorded, GPU max 72c recorded with the fans at 5500 rpm. I wonder how hot my old laptop got as the air coming out and case don't feel that hot at all. The old one was too hot to keep your hand on it and could burn your fingers with the exhaust. It's not doing anything atm and feels warmer... No wonder the sound started cutting out, it must have been boiling hot in there.

Task manager says the cpu is at 3.9 ghz, yet it states it's a 2.2 ghz cpu. Perhaps that's with turbo on. You can overclock the gpu, but don't see it for the cpu.

It's a very nice machine, everything feels fast and responsive, plus the screen stands out with the color and contrast. Of course only time will tell. Any fresh windows install feels fast initially. Internet browsing with an SSD drive is much better though. All those tempory internet files take time. VGChartz is not a pita on this one :)



SvennoJ said:
EricHiggin said:

I see it's showing 5.02GB of VRAM but I thought it was pretty typical for it to usually show up around 5.7GB-5.8GB VRAM for a 6GB card. Maybe have a look in the Nvidia control panel and check out the specs and make sure it shows the full 6GB. I'd imagine the benchmark is just misreading the actual proper total.

I guess, it says dedicated video memory 6144 MB GDDR5, total available 14257 MB (shared system memory 8113 MB)

Who knows, the 32 GB flash card is actually 28.8 GB
The 256 GB SSD is actually 237 GB
The 1TB HDD is actually 931 GB

Cutting corners everywhere!


Who knows, the 32 GB flash card is actually 28.8 GiB
The 256 GB SSD is actually 237 GiB
The 1TB HDD is actually 931 GiB

For those who don't know, GB and GiB are 2 different things and also pronounced differently. GB would be Gigabyte, while GiB would be Gibibyte. 32 GB would be 32*10^9 bytes while 32 Gibibytes would amount to 2^35 bytes. This is also the reason why a 1TB HDD for instance only shows up as 932 GiB. That's nit just due to formatting the HDD, but due to conversion, as 1KiB is 1024 bytes but 1 KB is just 1000 bytes



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SvennoJ said:
EricHiggin said:

I see it's showing 5.02GB of VRAM but I thought it was pretty typical for it to usually show up around 5.7GB-5.8GB VRAM for a 6GB card. Maybe have a look in the Nvidia control panel and check out the specs and make sure it shows the full 6GB. I'd imagine the benchmark is just misreading the actual proper total.

I guess, it says dedicated video memory 6144 MB GDDR5, total available 14257 MB (shared system memory 8113 MB)

Who knows, the 32 GB flash card is actually 28.8 GB
The 256 GB SSD is actually 237 GB
The 1TB HDD is actually 931 GB

Cutting corners everywhere!

So far so good, I played FH4 for almost 2 hours, silky smooth, no hickups. The CPU temp did go up to 95c max recorded, GPU max 72c recorded with the fans at 5500 rpm. I wonder how hot my old laptop got as the air coming out and case don't feel that hot at all. The old one was too hot to keep your hand on it and could burn your fingers with the exhaust. It's not doing anything atm and feels warmer... No wonder the sound started cutting out, it must have been boiling hot in there.

Task manager says the cpu is at 3.9 ghz, yet it states it's a 2.2 ghz cpu. Perhaps that's with turbo on. You can overclock the gpu, but don't see it for the cpu.

It's a very nice machine, everything feels fast and responsive, plus the screen stands out with the color and contrast. Of course only time will tell. Any fresh windows install feels fast initially. Internet browsing with an SSD drive is much better though. All those tempory internet files take time. VGChartz is not a pita on this one :)

I verified after and found a few posts elsewhere on the net that said CPU-Z would show 6144MB for a 6GB GPU so that's all good then. PC data conversion sucks but seems like you got the point anyway.

i7-8750H is 6C/12T, and has a 2.2GHz base and 4.1GHz max boost. It has a 45w TDP, 100C max, so 95C is getting up there in temps. Mobile is designed to deal with the extra heat so nothing to worry about unless it ever actually starts overheating and shutting down. GPU at 72C ain't all that bad really. Hot, but still under 80C-90C, so less of a worry than the CPU. If the fans are running at reasonable speeds, then most of the heat should be getting vented directly out of the casing. It would still get hot inside, but the overall hardware shouldn't see temps anywhere near that.

At 95C you really wouldn't want to try and OC the CPU anyway. As for the GPU, you probably could a little bit but it seems like it's giving you more than you required at the moment and the more you push it, the more heat it will produce and the fan will get even louder. Plus it probably won't take much of a push for temps to rise 'exponentially'. This is a reason why it's not a bad idea to go a little overboard on the CPU and/or GPU in a laptop if you can because of the excess heat from gaming, if you can restrain yourself from just cranking it up and maxing it out regardless. It also allows for lower fan speeds and less noise, but comes at a cost. Gaming laptops are all about trade offs.



Bofferbrauer2 said:
SvennoJ said:

I guess, it says dedicated video memory 6144 MB GDDR5, total available 14257 MB (shared system memory 8113 MB)

Who knows, the 32 GB flash card is actually 28.8 GB
The 256 GB SSD is actually 237 GB
The 1TB HDD is actually 931 GB

Cutting corners everywhere!


Who knows, the 32 GB flash card is actually 28.8 GiB
The 256 GB SSD is actually 237 GiB
The 1TB HDD is actually 931 GiB

For those who don't know, GB and GiB are 2 different things and also pronounced differently. GB would be Gigabyte, while GiB would be Gibibyte. 32 GB would be 32*10^9 bytes while 32 Gibibytes would amount to 2^35 bytes. This is also the reason why a 1TB HDD for instance only shows up as 932 GiB. That's nit just due to formatting the HDD, but due to conversion, as 1KiB is 1024 bytes but 1 KB is just 1000 bytes

I know about the trickery of marketing, still doesn't add up though

32*1000*1000 / 1024*1024 = 30.5 GB
256 -> 244.1 GB
1 TB -> 953.6 GB

Ah it fits if you convert to terabyte, dividing it by (1024*1024*1024)

32 -> 0.0298 TB
256 -> 0.238 TB
1TB -> 0.931 TB
Sneaky!

Still not correct for the USB stick, however that might explain why the creation of a recovery drive failed. Perhaps it has some bad sectors that automatically got fix in the scan and verify process that kept popping up after the recovery drive creation failed. The makes the drive useful by I guess flagging the bad sectors, reducing the total capacity. However when creating a recovery drive it does a quick format first without checking, then gets write errors when it gets to the bad sectors.



EricHiggin said:
SvennoJ said:

I guess, it says dedicated video memory 6144 MB GDDR5, total available 14257 MB (shared system memory 8113 MB)

Who knows, the 32 GB flash card is actually 28.8 GB
The 256 GB SSD is actually 237 GB
The 1TB HDD is actually 931 GB

Cutting corners everywhere!

So far so good, I played FH4 for almost 2 hours, silky smooth, no hickups. The CPU temp did go up to 95c max recorded, GPU max 72c recorded with the fans at 5500 rpm. I wonder how hot my old laptop got as the air coming out and case don't feel that hot at all. The old one was too hot to keep your hand on it and could burn your fingers with the exhaust. It's not doing anything atm and feels warmer... No wonder the sound started cutting out, it must have been boiling hot in there.

Task manager says the cpu is at 3.9 ghz, yet it states it's a 2.2 ghz cpu. Perhaps that's with turbo on. You can overclock the gpu, but don't see it for the cpu.

It's a very nice machine, everything feels fast and responsive, plus the screen stands out with the color and contrast. Of course only time will tell. Any fresh windows install feels fast initially. Internet browsing with an SSD drive is much better though. All those tempory internet files take time. VGChartz is not a pita on this one :)

I verified after and found a few posts elsewhere on the net that said CPU-Z would show 6144MB for a 6GB GPU so that's all good then. PC data conversion sucks but seems like you got the point anyway.

i7-8750H is 6C/12T, and has a 2.2GHz base and 4.1GHz max boost. It has a 45w TDP, 100C max, so 95C is getting up there in temps. Mobile is designed to deal with the extra heat so nothing to worry about unless it ever actually starts overheating and shutting down. GPU at 72C ain't all that bad really. Hot, but still under 80C-90C, so less of a worry than the CPU. If the fans are running at reasonable speeds, then most of the heat should be getting vented directly out of the casing. It would still get hot inside, but the overall hardware shouldn't see temps anywhere near that.

At 95C you really wouldn't want to try and OC the CPU anyway. As for the GPU, you probably could a little bit but it seems like it's giving you more than you required at the moment and the more you push it, the more heat it will produce and the fan will get even louder. Plus it probably won't take much of a push for temps to rise 'exponentially'. This is a reason why it's not a bad idea to go a little overboard on the CPU and/or GPU in a laptop if you can because of the excess heat from gaming, if you can restrain yourself from just cranking it up and maxing it out regardless. It also allows for lower fan speeds and less noise, but comes at a cost. Gaming laptops are all about trade offs.

The 95c was max recorded, when I checked while playing for a few hours the cpu sat at 85c. Perhaps FH4 is very cpu intensive, plus the higher framerate requires more from cpus afaik, It's set to lock to 72fps. The CPU is around 45c atm, normal I assume. The fans could still go a bit faster, max out at 5885 rpm on max. The main problem of my old one was much smaller vents, only half the width om the side, and slower air flow, hence the extremely hot air coming out. This one has bigger vents all across the back.

If you buy a laptop with a discreet GPU, check the vents!



SvennoJ said:
Bofferbrauer2 said:

Who knows, the 32 GB flash card is actually 28.8 GiB
The 256 GB SSD is actually 237 GiB
The 1TB HDD is actually 931 GiB

For those who don't know, GB and GiB are 2 different things and also pronounced differently. GB would be Gigabyte, while GiB would be Gibibyte. 32 GB would be 32*10^9 bytes while 32 Gibibytes would amount to 2^35 bytes. This is also the reason why a 1TB HDD for instance only shows up as 932 GiB. That's nit just due to formatting the HDD, but due to conversion, as 1KiB is 1024 bytes but 1 KB is just 1000 bytes

I know about the trickery of marketing, still doesn't add up though

32*1000*1000 / 1024*1024 = 30.5 GB
256 -> 244.1 GB
1 TB -> 953.6 GB

Ah it fits if you convert to terabyte, dividing it by (1024*1024*1024)

32 -> 0.0298 TB
256 -> 0.238 TB
1TB -> 0.931 TB
Sneaky!

Still not correct for the USB stick, however that might explain why the creation of a recovery drive failed. Perhaps it has some bad sectors that automatically got fix in the scan and verify process that kept popping up after the recovery drive creation failed. The makes the drive useful by I guess flagging the bad sectors, reducing the total capacity. However when creating a recovery drive it does a quick format first without checking, then gets write errors when it gets to the bad sectors.

Would actually be 32*1000*1000*1000/(1024*1024*1024), you started with kilobytes as your base instead of bytes. But that still wouldn't be enough, as that results into 29.8GiB

Also, Flash Memory in those 2^x sizes are normally really that big. But they also tend to have some overprovisioning (hence why many drives/USB sticks come with 240GB while physically having 256GiB) to make sure the SSD is never totally full and as reserve for dead cells. So that's probably what happened in your case, too.



Bofferbrauer2 said:

Would actually be 32*1000*1000*1000/(1024*1024*1024), you started with kilobytes as your base instead of bytes. But that still wouldn't be enough, as that results into 29.8GiB

Also, Flash Memory in those 2^x sizes are normally really that big. But they also tend to have some overprovisioning (hence why many drives/USB sticks come with 240GB while physically having 256GiB) to make sure the SSD is never totally full and as reserve for dead cells. So that's probably what happened in your case, too.

You are right. Oh man it's been at least 30 years since I ever considered thinking of using bytes as a base unit :)

It works in my favor for my bandwidth though. 500*1024*1024*1024 per month, while it reports in MB. I assume it measures the actual amount downloaded no matter how calculated, but at least it's 500 actual Gigabytes and I'm not getting shafted an extra 35 GB by my isp.

Downloading FH4, Ori and reinstalling windows cost about 95,000 MB. I still have some left to check out what else is fun with gamepass.

 Total Usage (MB)
    433,694 MB
   
Total Usage (GB)
    423.52 GB
   
Usage Allowance
    500 GB (512000 MB)

Decide on one measure lol. I guess that's technically correct, 500GB is indeed 512,000 MB and 524,288,000 KB, 536,870,912,000 bytes. That's a lot of ascii porn. I think this is safe enough for this site, that's what we were using the 'internet' for in university back in '92 lol