Oh I see I didn't go through the thread.

But yes reading the article they said it would take a long time to recoup the cost of RND into the PS3. As well as the money lost for each sale as they are sold at a loss. But this was 2008. The PS3 slim and super slim came in. They sold millions and milllions of software especially 2009 and onwards and by the time the PS3 came 5 years after that article I'm sure they ended up making money and it was a successful product. They sold almost 87 million of the things.

I don't see them doing a $499 box.  They did it with PS3 and it didn't work out, not until the PS3 dropped to $399, and even more so at $299.  MS did it this gen, and they are going to end up being out sold by more than 2:1.  While $499 is a little more acceptable now, and will probably be acceptable in a few more years, I just don't think it sells right now.  Sony will also be subsidizing the console, like they always do.  So, it may cost $449-$499 to make, but Sony would still sell it for $399. 

And trust me, they aren't going to force VR on people.  MS tried it with Kinect and it doesn't work.  Plus, Kinect was "only" a $100 mark up, while VR would be something more like a $200-$300 mark up.  Not going to happen.  Also, considering Sony has never lost WW to Xbox, I highly doubt the PS5 will, either.  It just has too much going for it, including B/C with PS4.  Which seems even more interesting, since apparently Sony, according to one of their patents, is going to be pushing remaster packs (with higher res textures, maybe even higher geometry for models) for PS4 games on PS5.  That could be a big selling point for the 100M+ people who own a PS4, especially if its only $10-$20 for the pack instead of paying $60 for a remastered game.

I also wouldn't count on a SSD.  It will most likely be a 1TB HDD, with the ability for the consumer to upgrade it if they wish.  It's just too costly to throw in a large capacity SSD.  I mean that's a $50 difference at retail.  It may be more like a $30 difference for Sony, but that's an added cost of $150M for the first 5M units alone, which would be better spent putting a more powerful chipset in it.  If we ever get to a $5 difference between drives, Sony will probably throw one into the PS5 Pro at launch and probably a Slim, but not the launch model.  The only one I could see putting a SSD in is MS in their top of the line $499 model, and that would probably only be a 500GB one.

I don't see them doing a $499 box.  They did it with PS3 and it didn't work out, not until the PS3 dropped to $399, and even more so at $299.  MS did it this gen, and they are going to end up being out sold by more than 2:1.  While $499 is a little more acceptable now, and will probably be acceptable in a few more years, I just don't think it sells right now.  Sony will also be subsidizing the console, like they always do.  So, it may cost $449-$499 to make, but Sony would still sell it for $399. 

And trust me, they aren't going to force VR on people.  MS tried it with Kinect and it doesn't work.  Plus, Kinect was "only" a $100 mark up, while VR would be something more like a $200-$300 mark up.  Not going to happen.  Also, considering Sony has never lost WW to Xbox, I highly doubt the PS5 will, either.  It just has too much going for it, including B/C with PS4.  Which seems even more interesting, since apparently Sony, according to one of their patents, is going to be pushing remaster packs (with higher res textures, maybe even higher geometry for models) for PS4 games on PS5.  That could be a big selling point for the 100M+ people who own a PS4, especially if its only $10-$20 for the pack instead of paying $60 for a remastered game.

Not really. Year 3 is where Nintendo consoles usually see their peak, and then see a steady decline. I think this will be the year that Switch peaks. Probably a $249 price tag and/or revision and Pokemon. Nothing Nintendo has is going to match that going forward.

So, at most, Switch will have 2019 and 2020. In 2021, the PS5 will be hitting it's stride, while Switch will be on the way out.

As for PS5, we already know plenty about it. It'll be using a Ryzen CPU (seemingly to be 8 cores, given the recent CPU leak) and a Navi GPU (rumored to at least match a 1080 TI), both providing a nice leap in power. At least 16 GB of RAM (the obvious type being GDDR6.) And while we don't know the price, given that Sony has been releasing consoles for $399 this gen, I'd assume we'll see that same price tag next gen, as well, while MS pushes their most powerful iteration for $499.

Was the PS3 not successful?

No, Switch will not have console sellers releasing that late, as Nintendo has already released most of their big series on it. Nintendo hardware also doesn't have the brand recognition of PlayStation through the world.

So you basically are not answering my question because you're chicken out..... I guess that if i change the question and said to you something like "If you WERE FORCED to bet for or against PS5 what would yo do?" you still won't aswering me, right?

Would you not bet then, that the next Pokemon game on Switch is going to be a success? (we know nothing about the game, not even the name, but i'm pretty sure everyone here is expecting it to be a success), or the next 3D Mario game???, or maybe the next COD, or next FIFA, we know nothing about their next games either, so you won't bet they will succeed next year either? even if you were forced to do it?

Nope, they are irrelevant when discussing their home consoles.