Gen 8.
It's only about the market timeline. Consoles releases in the same window = same generation.
What generation is the Nintendo Switch? | |||
Generation 8 (PS4, XBoxOne) | 71 | 44.94% | |
Generation 9 | 57 | 36.08% | |
Generation 1 (of the hybrid era) | 14 | 8.86% | |
I don't care...I come to VGC for the chicks | 16 | 10.13% | |
Total: | 158 |
Gen 8.
It's only about the market timeline. Consoles releases in the same window = same generation.
The_Liquid_Laser said: It's definitely generation 9. It is behaving just like every other "next gen" console that released early. |
This.
0D0 said:
Exactly, why can't we accept that two devices from the same company can't fit on one generation? Wii U and NSW are on the same generation as PS4 and XB1. |
The have also been several cases of more then one generation of consoles active at the same time as well, NES/Megadrive, SNES/Saturn/PS1, Dreamcast/PS1/N64.
The answer to this is quite simple in my opinion.
We need to think about the nature of the switch and the actual context.
Being it an hybrid console, we have to see it from two point of view.
Switch is an handheld console, absolutely a successor to the 3ds which makes it the next portable gen.
However, as an home console it still compete with the same competitor consoles the Wii U did, so it is in the same gen 8th.
The successor of the switch will be same gen as ps5 and xbox 4 as an home console, and next gen portable.
SpokenTruth said:
NES and Mega Drive/Genesis/Mark III are the same generation. SNES was replaced by the N64 as the flagship Nintendo console during the Saturn/PS1 era. The continuation of selling after replacement is irrelevant. PS2 was discontinued in 2013 but is not considered part of the PS3/X360/Wii (Gen 7) era. Dreamcast is certainly a borderline case as it spent an equal amount of market time competing with Gen 5 as Gen 6 but that's only because of Sega's abrupt exit from the market. Otherwise, it would have spent the majority of its life during Gen 6. |
To you maybe ironically you can't even use your "Industry argument" here.
SNES was replaced in 96 which means for two years it competed with the PS1 and Saturn meaning two gens were active at the same time which is something you can't argue here, the fact you don't know were to class DC highlights how wonky your logic is here.
SpokenTruth said:
And for the first 4 years the SNES competed against the rest of the 4th generation. Why are you only looking at the last 2 years? Further, I never said 2 generations cannot be active at the same time. You're welcome to track down a quote of me saying such. And for the last time, it's not my logic. It's the definition the industry has been using for decades. Bitch to them and everybody that has worked in it now and since the beginning when they established such delineations. I don't get why you are so angered by this. You told me to "get over it" in the other thread as though you alone dictate how the industry should classify generations. I'm just telling you how they've done it since the start. Take it up with them. |
Here I'll break it down for you, 0d0 said the have been times with a few platforms from the same gen and I pointed out the are also times when platforms from different gens can be active at the same time and that's an example.
Why are you even replying then as that's the point? You're trying to debunk the point which wasn't even replying to you either, in other words you have no real point in replying.
Funny how the industry classes Megadrive as the same gen as SNES which contradicts your initial reply, as someone pointed out in another thread the industry doesn't use a definition like you claim forum goers do, you're the one constantly bringing up this logic so as such you become a vassal for it as well as where you got it from.
WiiU, Switch and their next one will all be gen 8.
8 + 1 = 9
Nov 2016 - NES outsells PS1 (JP)
Don't Play Stationary 4 ever. Switch!
SpokenTruth said:
If we are going that route, it's Gen 7.
NES - 1 |
And the Virtual Boy? :P
So yeah, Switch is Gen 7 Nintendo. PS4 is Gen 4 Sony, and the X1 is Gen 3 Microsoft. Sounds good.
0D0 said:
Exactly, why can't we accept that two devices from the same company can't fit on one generation? Wii U and NSW are on the same generation as PS4 and XB1. |
I agree that multiple devices of one manufacturer can be in the same gen. For reference, look at Atari in the second gen. And I do not even touch the mess, that was the first gen.
I might add though, that I don't rule out, that the Switch will become also a 9th gen device. We don't know yet, 9th gen isn't here yet. But it might be possible Switch is still competing with PS5 and Scarlett, which would make it also a 9th gen device. And that I would also declare: I see it as possible, that one device stretches about more than one gen.