|Pyro as Bill said:
1) UK got alot of Oxford/AstraZeneca vaccines.... by partly screwing over the EU. - Not true
2) Now it turns out, its only 10% effective against the South African variant of Covid19. - Not true
3) 10%!!! thats like nothing. - Not true
4) And to make matters worse, theres now community spread of the South African variant inside the UK.
Another month or two, and it ll probably be the dominant variant, and un-do all the good work the UK did with getting so many vaccinated. - Not true
There should be laws against this level of misinformation.
1) AZ was pressured into not giveing vaccines to EU, from british factories. When they screwed up production in EU.
They had a contract for X amount, and failed to deliver (instead only promising 1/4th or so).
Meanwhile, they could give the UK MORE than they had promised them.
Coincidence that production goes wrong in EU? and suddenly they cant ship EU as many as they promised while the UK is getting more?
(to me, that seems like UK screwing over the EU)
Translates to "live follow along, with developements in the corona situtation minuet for minuet"
in there, from yesterday theres this peice of text:
"Oxford-vaccinen er næsten virkningsløs mod sydafrikansk variant: 'Det er ret skræmmende'
I Sydafrika har man valgt midlertidigt at stoppe med brugen af vaccinen fra Oxford/AstraZeneca, da et ministudie har vist, at vaccinen har en meget svækket effekt mod den sydafrikanske virus, der for tiden menes at stå bag omkring 90 procent af alle nysmittede i landet.
Mens det endnu er usikkert, om vaccinen dog kan beskytte mod svær sygdom hos de vaccinerede, ser den ifølge ministudiet kun ud til at have en effektivitet på omkring 10 procent mod den sydafrikanske mutation.
Det kalder den danske vaccineekspert Morten Agertoug Nielsen, der er lektor ved Institut for Immunologi og Mikrobiologi på Københavns Universitet, for 'ret skræmmende':
- Jeg havde ikke forventet at se beskyttelsen falde så meget, og det er egentlig ret skræmmende, siger han.
Han mener, at det efter alt at dømme er en særlig mutation eller genetisk forandring, der giver vaccinen problemerne.
Problemerne er dog ikke større, end at de kan løses, forklarer Morten Agertoug Nielsen. Man kan opdatere vaccinen ved at indkorporere mutanten - men det vil være dyrt, og det vil højst sandsynligt kræve et nyt fase 3-forsøg."
Says: "Mens det endnu er usikkert, om vaccinen dog kan beskytte mod svær sygdom hos de vaccinerede, ser den ifølge ministudiet kun ud til at have en effektivitet på omkring 10 procent mod den sydafrikanske mutation. "
(tranlated) While its still uncertaint, if the vaccine still offers protection against serious illness with the vaccinated, so far from studies done, it looks to have only a effectiveness of around 10 percent against the south afraican mutation.
(the study data, comes from South Africa, were the main strain is that version, and they have used AZ vaccines)
They expect it might protect against seriously ilness, but theres no data to show it so far.
Studies say it only offers 10% effectiveness against it (catching the south african varient).
This basically means, theres still a 90% chance a person vaccinated with AZ vaccine, can catch this african version.
3) "10%!!! thats like nothing. - Not true"
I read in the paper, it says its only 10% effective in terms of protection yesterday.
Are you saying that the number is not true? or that 10% being near nothing is not true?
I feel like a 90% chance to still catch a virus, is as good as nothing.
4) "And to make matters worse, theres now community spread of the South African variant inside the UK.
Another month or two, and it ll probably be the dominant variant, and un-do all the good work the UK did with getting so many vaccinated. - Not true"
They have found people infected with it, that werent people that travelled resently.
What do you call that if not "community spread" ?
Sure its a very low % of all the covid going around but its there.
Also, if AZ vaccine offers protection against the normal strain and the UK variant..... but only 10% against the south african strain..... it doesnt take a rocket scientist to imagine that soon, the african strain will be the dominant version in the Uk.