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Dallinor said:

I'd like to see more updated information on this? 

I can confirm JP Morgan Chase for Luxembourg, knowing a couple executives in that company who said that they are pulling a lot of UK work (and workers) to their central in Luxembourg



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Barozi said:

South Korea joins "Euroland" in excluding elderly from AstraZeneca vaccination.

https://www.nasdaq.com/articles/s.korea-says-wont-initially-provide-astrazeneca-coronavirus-vaccine-to-elderly-2021-02-15


Sweden seems to have problems with the AstraZeneca vaccine. Doesn't fit study data (10% side effects vs. 25% side effects). Hospitals in trouble as personnel call in sick. (Imagine that happening in regions like Portugal where staff is scarce).

https://tekdeeps.com/swedish-regions-are-taking-vaccine-breaks-due-to-side-effects/

"Two Swedish regions have temporarily suspended the use of the AstraZeneca vaccine due to an unexpectedly high number of people with mild side effects.
[...] One region is Sörmland, where about 100 out of 400 vaccinated hospital staff have experienced side effects such as fever.
The reason for the temporary vaccine break is, among other things, that the region does not want to run into too many sick leaves at the same time.

According to SVT, the British-Swedish company AstraZeneca regrets the relatively high proportion of vaccinated people who experience side effects.
– It is not good. There seems to have been a greater proportion of side effects than we had expected.
– In studies, we have seen about ten percent vaccinating get these side effects, says Andreas Heddini, medical director of AstraZeneca in the Nordics, to SVT."

You left out this quote.

"It's nothing to do with the vaccine. We are just a little worried about staffing over the weekend."

https://www.thelocal.se/20210213/two-swedish-regions-pause-astra-jabs-after-side-effects



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Dallinor said:

I'd like to see more updated information on this? 

Most will probably move to Ireland or Luxembourg given they undercut the rest of the EU on corporation tax.



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Pyro as Bill said:
Dallinor said:

I'd like to see more updated information on this? 

Most will probably move to Ireland or Luxembourg given they undercut the rest of the EU on corporation tax.

Due to harmonization rulings within Europe on the taxes, the difference is much smaller than it used to be, though. But they already have the necessary infrastructure, know-how and training for the employees that it's still easier and more advantageous to go to those countries even if they wouldn't be cheaper anymore.



Lets get back on track, instead of vaccine talk (since theirs already a covid19 thread for that sort):

So the transition agreement, ran out back in Jan 1st 2021.
So the UK is now out of the custums union, and single market.
It got a light FTA, so you could still trade somewhat easily with the EU.
Sadly, alot of things on the UK side, weren't in place in time, and they made a right mess of things working out how trade now is handled.
(extra paper work, checks ect)

We have gotten data for the first month now (since the UK got out, and had to deal with effects of it):

GDP fell 2,9% in jan (down over 9,4% YoY, thats mostly covid19 though).
Trade with EU fell 40.8% (but it also hurt the EU abit, imports fell 28.8%).

Its just the first month.
Time will tell how this developes.

In April, the UK will start imposeing checks/paperwork on the EU (if it has its systems ready by then),
which should result in another hit to the economy (of both).

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Thanks Brussels. The UK and Switzerland will be more than happy to welcome any and all pharma companies that want to relocate.



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Pyro as Bill said:

Thanks Brussels. The UK and Switzerland will be more than happy to welcome any and all pharma companies that want to relocate.

The UK has vaccinated 24 million people.
9 million of those vaccines were made inside the EU, and shipped to the UK.

Meanwhile the UK isn't allowing any of the vaccines it makes to be shipped abroad, even when theres deals in place to buy said vaccines.

So basically EU has given the UK 9m vaccines.
While the UK has given the EU 0.

"Thanks brussels" is right.

If we acted like the USA, or like UK.
You would have vaccinated 9 million less people right now.

Like why should the EU be the only one to play by the rules?
When other nations are perfectly fine, with not allowing vaccines to be shipped out of their terratories?



JRPGfan said:
Pyro as Bill said:

Thanks Brussels. The UK and Switzerland will be more than happy to welcome any and all pharma companies that want to relocate.

The UK has vaccinated 24 million people.
9 million of those vaccines were made inside the EU, and shipped to the UK.

Meanwhile the UK isn't allowing any of the vaccines it makes to be shipped abroad, even when theres deals in place to buy said vaccines.

So basically EU has given the UK 9m vaccines.
While the UK has given the EU 0.

"Thanks brussels" is right.

If we acted like the USA, or like UK.
You would have vaccinated 9 million less people right now.

Like why should the EU be the only one to play by the rules?
When other nations are perfectly fine, with not allowing vaccines to be shipped out of their terratories?

pfizer has warned the European Union to back down from its threat to block vaccines to the UK because the firm “heavily” depends on the country for vital ingredients. Pfizer and its partner, BioNTech, have told Brussels that the UK has the power to retaliate by withholding raw and crucial materials needed for its jab, the Telegraph reports. “They [Pfizer/BioNTech] told the commission that if the UK shuts down the lipids then the whole process grinds to a halt in weeks,” the source added.

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The EU keeps throwing tantrums and overplaying its hand, I am embarrassed for Ursula, it's gotten pathetic. 

"She criticised AstraZeneca on Wednesday for having underproduced and underdelivered to the bloc and said the EU will consider halting vaccine exports to countries with higher coverage rates than its own."

surely her logic must also mean the EU should divert supplies from themselves to countries with lower vaccination rates until everyone is on an equal footing... lol. Get bent, Ursula. 

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JRPGfan said:

The UK has vaccinated 24 million people.
9 million of those vaccines were made inside the EU, and shipped to the UK.

Meanwhile the UK isn't allowing any of the vaccines it makes to be shipped abroad, even when theres deals in place to buy said vaccines.
...
Like why should the EU be the only one to play by the rules?
When other nations are perfectly fine, with not allowing vaccines to be shipped out of their terratories?

Charles Michel had to backtrack after telling the same lies you are telling. Will you do the same?

Oxford invented a vaccine 1/10th the cost of the nearest competitor and promised to provide it to everyone with no profit during the pandemic. If it was up to me, the EU wouldn't be getting any of the Oxford vaccine. The UK should be getting 100% of the first 140m doses. We should have ensured all of the vaccine was produced in a country that can be trusted even if it meant rollout took longer.



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Ursula knows it's a matter of life and death and is acting desperate to save as many lives as possible, as any leader would do

AZ prioritized the UK over the EU when it couldn't keep up production but they could have balanced things out - probably did not because most EU countries do not trust the AZ and leave it as last resort, still it wouldn't make much difference for the EU as a whole, EU population almost 7x the UK

also the EU is following a different tactic, fully vaccinating the old and vulnerable first, while the UK has already half-vaccinated half the adult population

I think the matter is exaggerated to make UK seem super successful after Brexit and the EU look stupid, but I don't think it will make much difference when it's all said and done

the forever doomed and gloomed in British eyes, and always "about to break-up" eurozone :/





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