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Putin, Merkel, Macron and Erdogan, this weekend, showed the middle finger to US sanctions against Syria/Iran as they explored ways to circumvent it.

https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-10-28/germany-and-france-just-broke-us-boycott-syria



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When and what is the usa dominant over?



Jumpin said:
spurgeonryan said:
Yet while we have nukes in the thousands would anyone dare invade?

Lack of dominance doesn’t mean lack of defense from invasion (whether they be militaristic or diplomatic - as is the case of Sweden and Switzerland).

Economic might is just as important as military might.  Both are required in order to keep the top position.  If the US only have military might but lose their economic might, it could mean the only thing they are worth is being the global police force.



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CuCabeludo said:
Qwark said:

Depends on whether you wish to calculate the extra costs that burning fossil fuels has on the climate/environment. If not no other source will be more profitable the coming decades. I in generaly am pro capitalism but willingly destroying your own planet for a few bugs is something I will never understand. Its not like sustainable energy isn't profitable these days its just less profitable from purely an economical point of view. 

Its not a real problem, I don't believe i man-made climate change. I do only believe in natural cycles of cold/heat based on the sun activity.

Your belief isn't a requirement for it to be true.
The scientific empirical evidence for climate change at this point is undeniable.

CuCabeludo said:

Yeah but when solar output decreases, earth cools, and when the decrease is too severe, ice ages happen. Solar activity has been decreasing in the last 20 years, the next solar cycle, 25 is estimated to be at least 15% weaker than this current solar cicle which is about to end by 2021 (24).

Scientific models have taken into account the solar cycles.
The issue is... To many people conflate weather with climate.

Qwark said:

Capitalism actually holds a lot of great values and is a very decent starting point. However our current capitalist lineair consumptie economy needs to be steered towards a green circular economy and partially controlled to really be benificial for the well being of people, planet and profit and should not only run on profit. Although the latter is neccesary.

Capitalism also allows for the most efficient use and distribution of resources, much more so than many other approaches.
Taking a mixed approach isn't a bad thing either... Many countries already do leverage socialist+capitalist market approaches which work well.

Machiavellian said:

Economic might is just as important as military might.  Both are required in order to keep the top position.  If the US only have military might but lose their economic might, it could mean the only thing they are worth is being the global police force.

Well. You need economic might first and foremost.
China just underwent it's industrial revolution and it's economic capability is getting rather staggering.

That allows them to afford more military capability... Not only that but their workforce is stupidly cheap, so they get more for their dollar as well.

Either way... Nothing lasts forever, it was inevitable that the USA would fall from it's top spot at some point, it was always a matter of when, not if... Just like every other empire that has come before it.



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People have been saying this at least since the 80's, but so far, Japan, China, India, Russia, and the European Union keep on failing to deliver.



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poklane said:
Kerotan said:

I spent a month travelling through Russia this summer. They are much better off then you think. Living expenses are so cheap you don't need to earn much to live. The people are cool. The country is beautiful. Very safe part of the world. 

 

The USA has no divine right to world dominance so I'm glad it's waning. Now if only the Europeans United. Russia and the rest of Europe would be the ultimate world power. 

I'd prefer WW3 over allying with Russia in any capacity.

Oh if we ever get to a WW3 pray Russia wont be the enemy(You cannot underestimate that military power and intelligence)and outside of Europe the rest of the world might lean more in support of Russia because of geography and traderoutes.



CuCabeludo said:

The world won't move out of fossil fuels anytime soon, no other form of energy source right now provides a better cost benefit when it comes to price per unit of energy produced.

This hasn't been true for a while now. See one year report, page 2: https://www.lazard.com/media/450337/lazard-levelized-cost-of-energy-version-110.pdf

TLDR: Onshore wind is the cheapest and still dropping



Salnax said:

People have been saying this at least since the 80's, but so far, Japan, China, India, Russia, and the European Union keep on failing to deliver.

The European Union and China have larger economies than the US, though, and India will join them in less than 20 - 30 years.

The thing is, inertia goes a long way. There's still plenty of accumulated prestige and wealth in the US and that isn't disappearing. See, even nowadays, many decades after the end of the British Empire, see how powerful the UK still is culturally and diplomatically. Or the prestige of French as an international language coming all the way from the 19th century and before.



 

 

 

 

 

haxxiy said:
Salnax said:

People have been saying this at least since the 80's, but so far, Japan, China, India, Russia, and the European Union keep on failing to deliver.

The European Union and China have larger economies than the US, though, and India will join them in less than 20 - 30 years.

The thing is, inertia goes a long way. There's still plenty of accumulated prestige and wealth in the US and that isn't disappearing. See, even nowadays, many decades after the end of the British Empire, see how powerful the UK still is culturally and diplomatically. Or the prestige of French as an international language coming all the way from the 19th century and before.

The world has fallen into the keynesian trap, once you fall into it, you can't leave. Japan was said to take over the world during the 80s, but their growth was based on printing money to generate a false growth, it took a huge toll: the growth evaporated and the country only survives because of ridiculously low interest rates to support the increasing goverment debt (over 240% of their GDP).

China right now is the Japan of the 1980s, they ahave been using the central bank printing press to artificially boost growth for over a decade and it is already starting to take the toll, it just a matter of more years ahead until they hit the current situation of japan (no growth at all).

Europe is already deep into the keynesian trap, their rates are negative, the ECB is printing money like crazy to give to their elite friends, and their growth is almost non existent.

The only thing that grows in Europe and Japan now is the debt, with negative interest rates, it's easy for governments to blow their budgets.

US and China are still having some growth, but it is just a matter of time until the Fed and PBOC blow up all their economies by raising their interest rates, and when it happens, they will go to 0 or negative rates like Japan and Europe and will stay in this trap like forever.

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