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flashfire926 said:
twintail said:

You are correct. But at the same time Sony picked up studios who they had worked with over the course of many years and games.

Obsidian and Microsoft have had a working relationship making games together for how long?

While what you guys say is true, it doesnt really have any significance or relevance in this argument.

Perhaps not. Dont get me wrong, I think this is a good buy for MS and a good move for Obsidian.

I'm just pointing out that similarities to Sony and how they approach studio acquisition is not a 1:1 correlation.

shikamaru317 said:
twintail said:

You are correct. But at the same time Sony picked up studios who they had worked with over the course of many years and games.

Obsidian and Microsoft have had a working relationship making games together for how long?

They have worked together in the past twice. KOTOR 2 was Xbox console exclusive. Obsidian was also working on an exclusive for Xbox One back in 2012, which got cancelled because MS decided the game was better suited for PC gamers than console gamers as I recall. 

So they worked together on an unreleased game 6 years ago, and not together on KOTOR2 (which is not a MS game). So, almost next to nothing really.

Again, doesn't matter. But nothing akin to how Sony usually acquires studios.



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COKTOE said:
flashfire926 said:

And?

Does that mean Sony hasn't bought developers before?

Are you even following the argument?

 

It's nothing short of maddening when somebody posts, their post is quoted, then a THIRD pass is required, because they've forgotten what they've said....We're 3 replies deep. How the do I do this without just telling you to look at what was already said so very, very recently? Where did I say that Sony has not bought developers? I said there are significant differences between the developers you listed as being purchased by Sony and the potential purchase of Obsidian by Microsoft. I did this in response to your post: 

"Do you also spite Sony for buying Naughty Dog, Media Molecule, Sucker Punch, Evolution, Sony Liverpool, Bend, Geurilla Games, Polyphony, etc? Those weren't exactly grown from the ground up.

A poor list. With some poor comparisons.

The quote you posted is perfectly true. Tell me where I lie.

The point you're trying to bring up is valid, but that doesnt make john less of a hypocrite. That's all. 

Also, not in that specific argument, it was not a poor comparison. Full stop. Stop being deliberately dense.

Its a fact that all of the studios I bought up were independently operated before Sony bought them (I think Geurilla was owned by a company that Sony bought them from, but that doesnt change the point)

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twintail said:
flashfire926 said:

While what you guys say is true, it doesnt really have any significance or relevance in this argument.

Perhaps not. Dont get me wrong, I think this is a good buy for MS and a good move for Obsidian.

I'm just pointing out that similarities to Sony and how they approach studio acquisition is not a 1:1 correlation.

Yes, that's perfectly true and valid. Sony builds up a relationship before acquiring, except for Sony Liverpool. MS has done this too with Undead Labs and Playground, but not nearly to the extent of Sony. They tend to buy devs out of the blue sometimes, like Ninja Theory.



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An Obsidian developed Fable game, anyone?



flashfire926 said:
COKTOE said:

It's nothing short of maddening when somebody posts, their post is quoted, then a THIRD pass is required, because they've forgotten what they've said....We're 3 replies deep. How the do I do this without just telling you to look at what was already said so very, very recently? Where did I say that Sony has not bought developers? I said there are significant differences between the developers you listed as being purchased by Sony and the potential purchase of Obsidian by Microsoft. I did this in response to your post: 

"Do you also spite Sony for buying Naughty Dog, Media Molecule, Sucker Punch, Evolution, Sony Liverpool, Bend, Geurilla Games, Polyphony, etc? Those weren't exactly grown from the ground up.

A poor list. With some poor comparisons.

The quote you posted is perfectly true. Tell me where I lie.

The point you're trying to bring up is valid, but that doesnt make john less of a hypocrite. That's all. 

Also, not in that specific argument, it was not a poor comparison. Full stop. Stop being deliberately dense.

How about Polyphony Digital Einstein? If you can pull yourself away from formulating a unified field theory, tell me all about the history of Polyphony Digital. Tell me about their history of game development before they were acquired by Sony.



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Hynad said:
An Obsidian developed Fable game, anyone?

Supposedly Playground's 2nd studio is developing the Fable reboot for next gen. Maybe Obsidian will provide some assistance on it however. 



COKTOE said:
flashfire926 said:

The quote you posted is perfectly true. Tell me where I lie.

The point you're trying to bring up is valid, but that doesnt make john less of a hypocrite. That's all. 

Also, not in that specific argument, it was not a poor comparison. Full stop. Stop being deliberately dense.

How about Polyphony Digital Einstein? If you can pull yourself away from formulating a unified field theory, tell me all about the history of Polyphony Digital. Tell me about their history of game development before they were acquired by Sony.

Well, upon closer inspection looks like polyphony stemmed out of Sony Japan. I'll take the L on that one. I'll remove Polyphony from my initial post. 

Though that's one of several. 



Bet with Intrinsic:

The Switch will outsell 3DS (based on VGchartz numbers), according to me, while Intrinsic thinks the opposite will hold true. One month avatar control for the loser's avatar.

This will bring in higher budget games from Obsidian. Its a good move and has no affect on my gaming since i game on PC as my primary choice. I enjoyed Pillars of Enternity and this dev has great talant. Looking forward to there next game.
If rumours are true than its a good pick up for MS. Id rather them brought by a healthy buisness instead of them folding.



COKTOE said:
flashfire926 said:

The quote you posted is perfectly true. Tell me where I lie.

The point you're trying to bring up is valid, but that doesnt make john less of a hypocrite. That's all. 

Also, not in that specific argument, it was not a poor comparison. Full stop. Stop being deliberately dense.

How about Polyphony Digital Einstein? If you can pull yourself away from formulating a unified field theory, tell me all about the history of Polyphony Digital. Tell me about their history of game development before they were acquired by Sony.

It's ok , i'll tell him , Polyphony Digital originally was  Poly's entertainment an internal development studio of sce, they changed their name to Polyphony Digital and created motor toon 1 and 2 , after the success of Gran Turismo, Sony reorganised Polyphony into an independent subsidiary with their own board with Yamauchi the chairman.

Last edited by mjk45 - on 09 October 2018

MS probably wanted to keep this a secret and reveal it at their XO event in November. Anyway great news for both parties, now Obsidian can make bigger budget games and MS will have a stronger lineup of games