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John2290 said: 

Again. It's difficult to understand a thing you're saying let alone how it relates to the Dalai Lamas speech. 

You might have noticed people in this thread conflating migrants with refugees. My point is exactly that. Cut the crap and admit it's about race, or culture at least.

I used to live on a street with Kosovans. We didn't want them here and they didn't want to be here, after the war, they went home. I suspect most refugees want to return home.

Migrants aren't the same as refugees and refugees aren't the same as asylum seekers.



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Replicant said:

Yeah... So let's not forget that e.g. USA and Russia have zero interest in ending warfare (it prints money).

If only that were true longterm.



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John2290 said:
Pyro as Bill said:

You might have noticed people in this thread conflating migrants with refugees. My point is exactly that. Cut the crap and admit it's about race, or culture at least.

I used to live on a street with Kosovans. We didn't want them here and they didn't want to be here, after the war, they went home. I suspect most refugees want to return home.

Migrants aren't the same as refugees and refugees aren't the same as asylum seekers.

As I've said multiple times in this thread. Read my reply to fauzman above. The Dalai Lama is hardly the type of character who is going to make anything about race, you were the one who brought race into the discussion you've been having with yourself.

''Muslims bring racism to other minorities especially black people''

''migrants in Europe should return to there countries as soon as it's feasble''

John. Fuck off.



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Europe doesn't belong to Europeans anymore than it does to Asians, Africans, or anyone else. Likewise, nobody should feel obligated to go back to some crappy country. On the flip side, European government certainly don't have any obligation to help anyone. Individual Europeans, just like individual Americans, and any other humans have a moral obligation to help Other people to the extent reasonably possible.

as far as I'm concerned, the correct approach to immigration of any sort, Refugee or otherwise, is to let anyone peaceful into any country they wish, and to give them anything. I'm an American. I want everybody who wants to be here to come on in. I want you to be legally able to work, legally own property, And legally do just about anything else. if you need financial assistance, or really help of any kind, I hope you get it. But, it shouldn't come from government. It should come from Individuals or voluntary organizations that want to help.



VAMatt said:
Europe doesn't belong to Europeans anymore than it does to Asians, Africans, or anyone else.

So the US, UK, France, Spain and Portugal are well within their right to go empire-ing?



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John2290 said:
Pyro as Bill said:

''Muslims bring racism to other minorities especially black people''

''migrants in Europe should return to there countries as soon as it's feasble''

John. Fuck off.

And its true, I've seen it first hand and yes, Refugees and migrants among them either need to start contributing and building a home here or return to there country as soon as it's feasble and safe. It's not much to ask to contribute or at least respect the culture of the country that is sheltering you and providing welfare. 

Thank you for getting back on topic but no, it has nothing to do with race and Islam is a religion, not a race. I'm not going to get into this any further with you anyway as I said in reply to your first comment when you prefaced Jews with "the", its clear you are either here to bait or have bias on one particular side. 

Refugees aren't allowed to work.

How can muslims be bringing racism towards black people if they're not a race? Make your mind up.

Threads like these (islam/migration/refugees/some cunt from the witcher) are all about race/culture. Have the conversation you want to have instead of pissing about. My point is that we likely wouldn't be having this conversation if the economy was working the way it should (you'd be too busy making millions).



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John2290 said:
Pyro as Bill said:

''Muslims bring racism to other minorities especially black people''

''migrants in Europe should return to there countries as soon as it's feasble''

John. Fuck off.

And its true, I've seen it first hand and yes, Refugees and migrants among them either need to start contributing and building a home here or return to there country as soon as it's feasble and safe. It's not much to ask to contribute or at least respect the culture of the country that is sheltering you and providing welfare. 

Thank you for getting back on topic but no, it has nothing to do with race and Islam is a religion, not a race. I'm not going to get into this any further with you anyway as I said in reply to your first comment when you prefaced Jews with "the", its clear you are either here to bait or have bias on one particular side. 

So much for maturally discussing things in this thread.

Then again, I googled 'maturally' and didn't get any results.



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John2290 said:
RolStoppable said:

So much for maturally discussing things in this thread.

Then again, I googled 'maturally' and didn't get any results.

I don't see what was immature about that. 

I meant both of you, not only you.

Let's get real mature for a moment. Despite all the (highly) questionable things Pyro as Bill posted in this thread, he has a point in that you are beating around the bush with your thread. You are seeking validation for your own views by putting the Dalai Lama in front of you; the Dalai Lama's comments caused controversy and outrage, and you hope that people here say that it was unfair and that he actually makes a good point, which then in turn would validate your own personal views regarding refugees. The muslims in particular.



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RolStoppable said:
John2290 said:

I don't see what was immature about that. 

I meant both of you, not only you.

Let's get real mature for a moment. Despite all the (highly) questionable things Pyro as Bill posted in this thread, he has a point in that you are beating around the bush with your thread. You are seeking validation for your own views by putting the Dalai Lama in front of you; the Dalai Lama's comments caused controversy and outrage, and you hope that people here say that it was unfair and that he actually makes a good point, which then in turn would validate your own personal views regarding refugees. The muslims in particular.

Well said. It's not even debatable. There is a ton of precedent and context to make this statement a fact.

Regardless, what is this thread doing under general discussion anyway?