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I still don't understand what should be discussed here. The original post has several paragraphs, but it falls into the category of "talk a lot without saying anything."



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John2290 said:
RolStoppable said:
I still don't understand what should be discussed here. The original post has several paragraphs, but it falls into the category of "talk a lot without saying anything."

The discussion point is peoples thoughts on the Dalai lamas words in the speech in Sweden as I suggested users to look into it and provided links and a wiki quoute for those who don't. Would you rather I add on a very, specific question for you? (Which I technically already have in a manner) You don't seem the type who can't pick up on subtle suggestion as one would near have to second guess, every second reply of yours to check for subtle hints of trolling. Don't say you don't realize the bolded paragraph is the discussion point of the thread, I just won't be able to believe it. 

I won't be adding a specific question or editing however as I see no reason to , the OP speaks for itself and I do hope people look further into what he said without relying on these snipped quotes until I can find a scource that adds everything he said in one place or a video that handles it in the proper way, it seems media are in outrage mode right now and I don't want to add to that. 

But that's just it, the bolded paragraph says there's not enough information yet.



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The EU is trying to replicate the USA without English Law (they're doomed to fail).

British Empire (ie British laws/customs) = BAD.

Millions of people moving to Britain to live under British laws/customs = GOOD.

The modern economy has convinced Europeans to reinvent the slave trade. "The immigrants will pay our pensions". This worked well for the USA when there was no welfare state/unlimited benefits. Unfortunately it will lead to Europe's downfall because the idea of small government is anti-thetical to everything a (non-brit) european believes.

Taxation

*expel the jews*

Is the

*pogrom 'em*

Price 

*round 'em up*

We pay for

*genocide 'em

Civilisation



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To make my post clearer, all the black/white, islam/noislam, immigration stuff is an identity politics 'cold war' taking place across the West/Internet (culture war). Most of it is due to our fucked up economic system just like Weimar Germany. (my personal opinion is that it's the countryside-city divide on a grand scale).

The EU wants to be a 'good' version of the US but doesn't understand that the US became what it was due to English Law and no/small state. The idea of 'no taxation' is antithetical to every (non-english) european. The EU thinks it can repeat the US but be 'benelovent'. Euros don't understand that it's government that funds genocides and they think money comes from thin air/jewish tricks.

As we all know, the only thing worse than a religious nutjob is an ''ideological continental european''. I could say 'white' but that would put the English and Euros in the same category.

The US constitution is the modern tablets of stone. The US will survive if it sticks to the constitution. Europe has nothing.



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Pyro as Bill said:
To make my post clearer, all the black/white, islam/noislam, immigration stuff is an identity politics 'cold war' taking place across the West/Internet (culture war). Most of it is due to our fucked up economic system just like Weimar Germany. (my personal opinion is that it's the countryside-city divide on a grand scale).

The EU wants to be a 'good' version of the US but doesn't understand that the US became what it was due to English Law and no/small state. The idea of 'no taxation' is antithetical to every (non-english) european. The EU thinks it can repeat the US but be 'benelovent'. Euros don't understand that it's government that funds genocides and they think money comes from thin air/jewish tricks.

As we all know, the only thing worse than a religious nutjob is an ''ideological continental european''. I could say 'white' but that would put the English and Euros in the same category.

The US constitution is the modern tablets of stone. The US will survive if it sticks to the constitution. Europe has nothing.

I still don't get what you are trying to say.



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Refugees to the Dalai Lama: "Right back at you!"



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F1gWECYYOSo

Please Watch/Share this video so it gets shown in Hollywood.

Pyro as Bill said:
To make my post clearer, all the black/white, islam/noislam, immigration stuff is an identity politics 'cold war' taking place across the West/Internet (culture war). Most of it is due to our fucked up economic system just like Weimar Germany. (my personal opinion is that it's the countryside-city divide on a grand scale).

The EU wants to be a 'good' version of the US but doesn't understand that the US became what it was due to English Law and no/small state. The idea of 'no taxation' is antithetical to every (non-english) european. The EU thinks it can repeat the US but be 'benelovent'. Euros don't understand that it's government that funds genocides and they think money comes from thin air/jewish tricks.

As we all know, the only thing worse than a religious nutjob is an ''ideological continental european''. I could say 'white' but that would put the English and Euros in the same category.

The US constitution is the modern tablets of stone. The US will survive if it sticks to the constitution. Europe has nothing.

What you're saying is still very confusing. All I understood was Euro-bashing and that would be completely off topic.

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RolStoppable said:
Pyro as Bill said:
To make my post clearer, all the black/white, islam/noislam, immigration stuff is an identity politics 'cold war' taking place across the West/Internet (culture war). Most of it is due to our fucked up economic system just like Weimar Germany. (my personal opinion is that it's the countryside-city divide on a grand scale).

The EU wants to be a 'good' version of the US but doesn't understand that the US became what it was due to English Law and no/small state. The idea of 'no taxation' is antithetical to every (non-english) european. The EU thinks it can repeat the US but be 'benelovent'. Euros don't understand that it's government that funds genocides and they think money comes from thin air/jewish tricks.

As we all know, the only thing worse than a religious nutjob is an ''ideological continental european''. I could say 'white' but that would put the English and Euros in the same category.

The US constitution is the modern tablets of stone. The US will survive if it sticks to the constitution. Europe has nothing.

I still don't get what you are trying to say.

You understand the 'racial cold war stuff' just fine. Anyone with an internet connection undertstands what i mean. It's relentless.

America will handle it (as long as the constitution/magna carta stays intact) however we all know how stupid continental europeans can be.

The modern economy has messed things up. That's what happens when you ignore Austrians and go off the gold standard.

The continent is already shifting heavily to the 'right' and even the left in the UK are blaming the jews.

Maybe it'll be different this time.



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Ka-pi96 said:

And a lot of the middle eastern refugees would get shot or blown up if they returned to their countries, so it's definitely comparable.

To an extent. The Dalai Lama is at least trying to develop Tibet from the outside. In addition, a person if more likely to be able to develop his/her own country even if the environment is violent as opposed to being locked up in a cell. In prison, you cannot possibly be able to enact change since you'd be isolated from other people.

John2290 said:

I found a good video but I'm 14 miles away from my laptop and I can only embed it on mobile, for some reason the embed feature won't work on android. So for anyone interested, I've added the link to the OP.

Video for Tim Pool on Youtube. https://youtu.be/Aq-NigFoJus

I'll get it up for you.



John2290 said:
CaptainExplosion said:

Yeah, I understand what he means, but he worded it wrong, and from what I remember about those countries developing them is nearly impossible, thanks to scum like Islamic State and Assad's regime.

Yeah, agreed. I think this is mainly getting such bad attention for the wording, that and the  media twisting it further. I believe I know his intent here and he would be correct but to say it in Sweden of all places, I mean, did anyone close to him read ehat he was going to say. 

I too think migrants in Europe should return to there countries as soon as it's feasble or dig in here and be productive and perhaps do what the polish have done or the Irish in the past and rebuild their countries from afar. It seems most stay for the welfare and have no plans past that, it causes all sorts of problems and in my town they beg every day while receiving welfare, cause a great deal of crime and bring so much racism, especially to the black people around here. Of course my own experience is but a microcosm of Europe and I have to completely disagree with the Dalai lama when he says 'Europe is for Europeans" We are accepting here and have accepted otherwise their would be no migrants to comment on however our individual cultures should be respected by those migrants and while taking shelter in another's country with weekly aid one should respect the laws, cultures and citizens of that country so I completely agree with the Dalai lama when he says they should go home and "develop their own countries" or at least work on that from where they are now, even if that takes money out of our country it has been shown by other immigrant in the past two decades that it can have a very positive effect on lower end sectors, enough to offset the cost. However staying on welfare , committing crimes and abusing our citizens helps no one, least of all the migrants. 

I hope to gwt a full transcript of what he said but I'm very glad he said it as it's an issue that needs light shed upon it again and regularly. Hopefully create a situation where there is light at the end of the tunnel for European, migrants and economic immigrants for that matter too who often get lumped in with refugees. 

I have to say that I find this kind of thinking to be the kind of bullshit that people with prejudices and trump-ites would say. As Dulfite has said, realistically speaking these people are likely those who have suffered huge traumas, especially children and returning back to country of origin is not a possibility. It is possible for them to get work and support their countries (I am sure a number of refugees that do well and get work probably do send money home). Also I dont know where you are getting your ideas  of refugees staying on welfare and committing crimes comes from.

From what I understand and have herad, here in New Zealand, it is considered that refugees generally work harder, are more willing to take lower paying jobs and contribute more to their new countries (I have tried to find literature to support this but havent so far). I am sure that is the case also where you are from. 

 



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