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Who is Sony's PS mascot?

Kratos 25 39.68%
 
Nathan Drake 20 31.75%
 
Ratchet and Clank 4 6.35%
 
Helghast 0 0%
 
Sackboy 7 11.11%
 
Other 7 11.11%
 
Total:63

It should be Jak & Daxter



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Kratos for me.



Shiken said:
pokoko said:

Hold on a second.  If you're not going to get what I said right then don't paraphrase me at all.  

The argument is pretty simple.  Playstation does not lean as heavily on past IP as Xbox and Nintendo.  This is an observable pattern of behavior and they've proven to be successful at it.  Nintendo, on the other hand, builds and maintains their oldest IP indefinitely.  That is also an observable pattern of behavior.

Now, you're seriously telling me that if Nintendo dropped Mario, Zelda, Donkey Kong, Kirby, and Pokemon, it wouldn't have an impact on their brand?  That it wouldn't affect sales?

I think the one trying to fool themselves into believing what they want to believe is you.

Okay, but the reason Sony has done it is because quality games sell...period.  Just because Nintendo has not NEEDED to do what Sony does, that DOES NOT mean they CAN'T.

 

The entire point has gone over your head.

Nothing has gone over my head.  Rather, you're being defensive for no real reason.  The point is that IP like Mario and Zelda are much stronger brands than anything Sony has.  You do not get IP like that in a generation or two.  Sony uses a different strategy--which is actually necessary with narrative-driven content, something Microsoft hasn't realized--but Nintendo builds on what they've got.

It's like saying if Disney decided to ax Star Wars, they could just whip up something as popular overnight.  No, probably not.  Eventually, maybe, but it's not like they can just throw anything out there and it would be instantly be on the same level as Star Wars.  It would require years of marketing and, mostly likely, several failures first.

When you make something that big, though, if you ever lose it, it would be a double-edge sword and would affect your entire bottom line.  Also, if you change your established strategy as a business, you risk alienating or confusing customers who were fans of what you did before.  

Nintendo is built around Mario, especially, it's intrinsic to the Nintendo brand at this point.  If Nintendo decided to release a platform without the inclusion of anything Mario at all, the consequences would be tangible.  Never mind that it's highly unlikely they'd be able to replace those sales with a new IP, it might even impact sales of the platform itself, which would make it that much harder to establish new IP.

It's fine if you disagree.  Perhaps you think Nintendo could replicate the sales and draw of Mario or Zelda anytime they like. Perhaps you think the adventures of "Chuck the Handyman" could move 15 million copies with its initial release and that "Chuck Golf" or "Chuck Tennis" would produce the same level of brand recognition.  I don't.  I believe IP on that scale are the work of decades.

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I hope it will be outside VR because it looks very nice.
It will be limited with the installbase of PSVR. 



Might as well be Kratos.



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NoCtiS_NoX said:

I hope it will be outside VR because it looks very nice.
It will be limited with the installbase of PSVR. 

Dont count on it, unfortunately.

Though I am sure they will make a different game for non-VR users.



NoCtiS_NoX said:

While Ratchet & Clank are my personal favorites, the God of War games sell more than the Ratchet games, so Kratos is more known by the general public. Nate Drake wouldn't be a bad mascot but I dunno, he looks too vanilla to me lol. Having said that, I don't think it's so necessary for Sony to have a mascot.



Miyamotoo said:
fauzman said:

I would agree with you. I think Drake has been the most recognized character for sony in the last two gens. Habing said the Drake seems to have had his day and has retired so he doesnt seem like a good choice going forward.

I guess that is the advantage of sony in that they have many syrong characters to choose from. I would say the current mazcot seems to be Kratos for this year. 

Exactly, Uncharted combined on PS3 sold 19m copies while GoW was at around 5m, and on PS4 Uncharted 4 and Uncharted Collection sold more than 15m. IMO only reason why people are choosing Kratos is because last GoW game, if actually Uncharted 4 was released after GoW I think more people would choose Nate, so I totaly agree with you that Kratos is current mascot for this year.

I dont think that Sony has many strong characters, at end currently everything comes to Nate and Kratos, others are not nearly strong enugh to be mascot (for instance Ratchet and Clank) or didnt had so much presence (maybe Ellie and Joel).

Lol. Yes my spelling was quite bad as i was doing it in a rush. Fixed.

 

I would say that sony has had a mascot for each ps gen rather than an overall mascot but i dont think it has been dominated by kratos and drake to the extent you suggest  I agree that Drake was the mascot of ps3. But i think the ps2 & ps4 have been more mixed with a bunch of ips and games. Maybe that's why both the ps2 and ps4 were both so successful?



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Miyamotoo said:
fauzman said:

I would agree with you. I think Drake has been the most recognized character for sony in the last two gens. Habing said the Drake seems to have had his day and has retired so he doesnt seem like a good choice going forward.

I guess that is the advantage of sony in that they have many syrong characters to choose from. I would say the current mazcot seems to be Kratos for this year. 

Exactly, Uncharted combined on PS3 sold 19m copies while GoW was at around 5m, and on PS4 Uncharted 4 and Uncharted Collection sold more than 15m. IMO only reason why people are choosing Kratos is because last GoW game, if actually Uncharted 4 was released after GoW I think more people would choose Nate, so I totaly agree with you that Kratos is current mascot for this year.

I dont think that Sony has many strong characters, at end currently everything comes to Nate and Kratos, others are not nearly strong enugh to be mascot (for instance Ratchet and Clank) or didnt had so much presence (maybe Ellie and Joel).

You are wrong in so many ways:

1. God of War on PS3 sold over 13 million units. Yes its behind Uncharted on PS3, but Uncharted had 3 mainline games on the PS3 which were heavily bundled. God of War had 1 mainline game, 3 collections of older games and 1 spinoff all of which were barely bundled at all, so it sold entirely on its own strength.

2. Its not sales of all the games combined that counts, its the individual sales which count and God of War on PS4 is far outpacing the fastest selling Uncharted game and that has nothing to do with which game released when and everything to do with the popularity of the series. GOW has been iconic since the PS2 and Kratos has been recognised for a long time.

3. Kratos has made appearances as a playable character in more games outside of the GOW series than Nathan Drake has outside of the Uncharted series. It shows that he is more popular as guest characters in games are chosen based on their popularity.



GOWTLOZ said:
Miyamotoo said:

Exactly, Uncharted combined on PS3 sold 19m copies while GoW was at around 5m, and on PS4 Uncharted 4 and Uncharted Collection sold more than 15m. IMO only reason why people are choosing Kratos is because last GoW game, if actually Uncharted 4 was released after GoW I think more people would choose Nate, so I totaly agree with you that Kratos is current mascot for this year.

I dont think that Sony has many strong characters, at end currently everything comes to Nate and Kratos, others are not nearly strong enugh to be mascot (for instance Ratchet and Clank) or didnt had so much presence (maybe Ellie and Joel).

You are wrong in so many ways:

1. God of War on PS3 sold over 13 million units. Yes its behind Uncharted on PS3, but Uncharted had 3 mainline games on the PS3 which were heavily bundled. God of War had 1 mainline game, 3 collections of older games and 1 spinoff all of which were barely bundled at all, so it sold entirely on its own strength.

2. Its not sales of all the games combined that counts, its the individual sales which count and God of War on PS4 is far outpacing the fastest selling Uncharted game and that has nothing to do with which game released when and everything to do with the popularity of the series. GOW has been iconic since the PS2 and Kratos has been recognised for a long time.

3. Kratos has made appearances as a playable character in more games outside of the GOW series than Nathan Drake has outside of the Uncharted series. It shows that he is more popular as guest characters in games are chosen based on their popularity.

1. My bad, I was counting only GoW 3, and GoW 3 (like you wrote only mainline game on PS3) is around 5m.

2. Talking about sales, every main Uncharted game sold better than best selling GoW game until last GoW game. Of Course that when some game is released is important, its not same if you have launch of strong game on install base of 40m and when you have launch of strong game on same platform but on intall of almost 80m, you can bet that Uncharted 4 would also had much stronger launch if actualy was launched on install base of 80m instead of 40m.

3. I was talking only about last two generation, and Drake was more popular than Kratos until last GoW game.