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Machiavellian said:
SpokenTruth said:

One of the first things Trump did when he took office was use an executive order to remove an Obama era law that added mental health issues to the gun registration background database.

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/trump-signs-bill-revoking-obama-era-gun-checks-people-mental-n727221

 

This guy bought his guns after Trump revoked the law thus allowing him to purchase the guns.

Maybe that is why he has been so quiet on the issue.

That was fake news on all accounts. Possession of a firearm by the mentally ill is regulated by both state and federal laws.

http://www.ncsl.org/research/civil-and-criminal-justice/possession-of-a-firearm-by-the-mentally-ill.aspx

Maryland -- Md. Pub. Safety Code § 5-133.

A person may not possess a regulated firearm if the person:

Suffers from a mental disorder and has a history of violent behavior against the person or another;

Has been found incompetent to stand trial because of mental retardation or mental disorder;

Has been found not criminally responsible by reason of insanity;

Has been voluntarily admitted for more than 30 consecutive days to a mental health treatment facility; or

Has been involuntarily committed to a mental health treatment facility.



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numberwang said:
Machiavellian said:

Maybe that is why he has been so quiet on the issue.

That was fake news on all accounts. Possession of a firearm by the mentally ill is regulated by both state and federal laws.

http://www.ncsl.org/research/civil-and-criminal-justice/possession-of-a-firearm-by-the-mentally-ill.aspx

Maryland -- Md. Pub. Safety Code § 5-133.

A person may not possess a regulated firearm if the person:

Suffers from a mental disorder and has a history of violent behavior against the person or another;

Has been found incompetent to stand trial because of mental retardation or mental disorder;

Has been found not criminally responsible by reason of insanity;

Has been voluntarily admitted for more than 30 consecutive days to a mental health treatment facility; or

Has been involuntarily committed to a mental health treatment facility.

Thats what I get for the quick hit post without checking on the issue.  noted.



Pic unrelated to the event but I find it quite fitting for the aftermath of EVERY of these instances.

This pro gun mentality is sick and disgusting.

 

EDIT: This one might be a better fit.

Last edited by GoOnKid - on 28 August 2018

smroadkill15 said:
I hate this so much. What a coward and piece of shit. I just don't understand what goes through someones mind to do something this terrible.

Your avatar is a bit ironic.

But to your point, I am very curious indeed what sort of mind this type of person has. It's very easy to settle on the thought that this guy is just a terrible person, but I wonder how many people have a threshold for doing this sort of thing in the first place.

I'm a completely non-violent person; never had a fist-fight or anything of the sort. I would like to think that I would never be capable of such an atrocity as this. But maybe the right circumstances would prove otherwise?

Not sure what my point is. I'm not trying to say that anything would justify this sort of behavior, but there are certain situations where this behavior might rule out this guy as a coward piece of shit. Not trying to play devil's advocate; more just trying to be open-minded and not make assumptions.



GoOnKid said:

Pic unrelated to the event but I find it quite fitting for the aftermath of EVERY of these instances.

This pro gun mentality is sick and disgusting.

 

EDIT: This one might be a better fit.

Even if making it illegal to own a gun caused the crime rate to go down, I don't necessarily think that would be a worthy reason to remove them. I'm certain there are situations where owning a gun has saved someone's life. I don't like to see more and more laws put into place; this is supposed to be the land of the free, but I feel that more and more people are wanting the government to step in and regulate.

 

I was in a conversation with someone who wanted there to be restrictions imposed on people's ability to order fast food. Sure, people would eat less fast food; but at what cost? A few bad apples spoil the bunch, as they say.



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Baltimore in Florida? alternative geographic

Question still remains how he was able to buy a gun with his history.



Thoughts and prayers won't stop it happening again you can be damn sure of that.



RolStoppable said:
Aeolus451 said:

 Alot more people use guns to protect themselves from all crime than to murder people by gun in the US. That's in fact a net positive. If guns were made illegal tomorrow, the US would suffer across the board from it because people couldn't legally protect themselves anymore. 

It doesn't matter what happens in some other country because they don't have same the culture, laws, issues or pros the US has. That's also you trying to change the goal post because you can't defeat my claim on its own ground.

People couldn't legally protect themselves anymore? That's funny.

Speaking of moving the goalposts, nobody in this thread has made the argument that guns should be made illegal. And if you go back to the beginning of the argument chain you entered, you'll find someone who says that pro-gun people love to use the straw man argument that people who are in favor of stricter laws want to outlaw guns altogether. How right that person was, don't you think?

Plenty of people alluded to it in this thread. It's not a strawman to assume an anti-gun person's stance when the left in general believes that guns should be banned. Anyway, it's not worth bothering with ya since you're acting like Ace Ventura when he's asking for a tip.



RaptorChrist said:

Your avatar is a bit ironic.

But to your point, I am very curious indeed what sort of mind this type of person has. It's very easy to settle on the thought that this guy is just a terrible person, but I wonder how many people have a threshold for doing this sort of thing in the first place.

I'm a completely non-violent person; never had a fist-fight or anything of the sort. I would like to think that I would never be capable of such an atrocity as this. But maybe the right circumstances would prove otherwise?

Not sure what my point is. I'm not trying to say that anything would justify this sort of behavior, but there are certain situations where this behavior might rule out this guy as a coward piece of shit. Not trying to play devil's advocate; more just trying to be open-minded and not make assumptions.

My avatar pic is from a quote from Sarge in Red Vs. Blue. It's a joke. I don't actually feel strongly that way, but I get what you mean lol. 

I understand people get upset. I definitely have my moments. If I ever do get that mad, usually after 5-10 minutes, I calm down and shrug it off.  I would rather get in a fist fight with someone, let my anger out that way, than have a gun and start shooting people. I would never let my anger get the best of me where I feel like killing. 

He's a coward. Shooting defenseless people is only something a coward would do. If someone was armed up as much as he was, and he knew it, I doubt he would have gone through with it. Then he kills himself once he had nowhere to go. Yep, he's a coward. 



SpokenTruth said:
1. National registry and licensing for all guns and gun owners.
2. Register all gun and ammo sales.
3. Private sales must be notarized and registered.
4. Must pass psych evaluation and safety training every 3 years.
5. Owners must carry Gun Owners Insurance.
6. Cannot own more than 4 guns without a "collectors" license.
7. If you have kids under 18 living in the house, guns must be locked and/or unloaded.
8. National background check prior to any gun or ammo purchase.
9. Criminal history negates license.
10. Illegal gun/ammo sale/ownership results in felony charges.
11. Circumvention of these results in felony charges.

Want to be a responsible gun owner? There you go.

Yeah I think putting something like that into effect, would greatly help things.
However because of how easy guns sales have been upto now, it ll take awhile before you truely see the results of it.