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Lol, you know is getting close to election time when you have these types of things going on social media. I cannot wait to seem the Dems version or some other political stunt looking to grab a few votes. Should be fun to see now the mids shake out.



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not quoting any videos, just making a statement- i feel like there has been so much dirt thrown in every direction to a point where the two sides of any coin you choose are indistinguishable. take your pick, democrats/republicans, left wing/right wing, liberal/conservative. and NO i do not just mean that the two sides fight so much that neither side has a moral ground anymore, i mean that i literally cant tell what each side is even fighting for and im convinced that nobody even knows. people are so quick to look anything and anyone dead in the face and discredit it on the grounds of "i dont agree, therefore you must belong to the opposite party and your opinion doesnt count." really im just sick of the labels. cant we all just own our own beliefs without throwing what are now meaningless titles in every direction?



Can someone tell me exactly how the Dems are gonna create a Blue Wave? One question, what the hell are they running on? If it's to oppose Trump only, they will fail miserably, no matter how much you applaud their 'bravery'.

They MAY HAVE been able to pick up seats in the house, but considering Cortes won the primary, not only will that mess you up this year because Americans hate Socialism, but you may be screwed in 2020 if she wins, which is likely. It's the equivalent of if Roy Moore won the Alabama Senate seat (which thank god he didn't) in the case that they care next to none about the preset system and will do anything under any circumstance to hold office.

On top of that I'm going to say this now, you are screwed in the Senate if you're a Democrat. Sure it's like 51-48, but look at the states you have to defend. Indiana, Missouri. Montana, North Dakota, Ohio, and West Virginia are all states Trump handled, and that doesn't include the swing states he won like Florida, Wisconsin, and Michigan. Keep in mind all these seats were voted on in 2012, a presidential year where Obama won, and considering Democrat turnout is abysmal compared to presidential years, it is possible, though not likely, that Republicans have a shot at all these, but likely most of them. I think best case scenario for Dems is Republicans keep control 52-48, with pickups in Arizona and Nevada.

If the Dems can get the House then it's a win, but I don't have confidence considering minority turnout is always subpar and it is what their party relies on.



TH3-D0S3R said:
Can someone tell me exactly how the Dems are gonna create a Blue Wave? One question, what the hell are they running on? If it's to oppose Trump only, they will fail miserably, no matter how much you applaud their 'bravery'.


Didn't the Republican run on opposing Hillary and Obama and they won.  I would believe they are just taking the same strategy from the Republican book and using it agains them.  They also seem to be mobilizing again like they did during the Obama years trying to stir up the base and get the to vote.  Just like any political movement, they will do their polls and decide on which issues seem more important to their base and independants who may be feeling buyers remorse with Trump.  Either way it will be interesting to see how the different stages pan out in the coming months.



I find it funny how each side now try to paint one or the other as violent. It's the old technique time and time again. First you label a group. Then you start to attribute a behavior to that group based on some individual action. Next you make it your narrative that this is the group based on some individual actions. These videos are prime example of that type of political ploy and its very obvious.

Here is something for the people who believe Republicans or Dems or Liberals or conservatives are violent. Yes to it all because people in general are violent. No specific group can claim to be or not to be because individuals can be saints and turn violent and trigger in the same day.



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Jumpin said:
You guys in the US do realize all of your politics that you fanatically follow are a bunch of bullshit that never amount to anything?

They're designed to distract your asses while the government dumps your nation's money by the trillions into the military industrial complex where it funnels down into the pockets of international holding companies. While you're squabbling over gay cakes and how you fund your healthcare, you give next to no resistance against the fact that your republican government is ass raping your publicly owned and funded coffers.

Strange how it is more controversial that the money gets used to help your people than it is to see many times more that amount get stolen by these military industrial complex holding companies.

The biggest destraction is meant to shield the Federal reserve from oversight. The dollar fiat scam is the biggest, global scam the elites have running. The MIC enriching itself is just a consequence of that scam.



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Machiavellian said:
TH3-D0S3R said:
Can someone tell me exactly how the Dems are gonna create a Blue Wave? One question, what the hell are they running on? If it's to oppose Trump only, they will fail miserably, no matter how much you applaud their 'bravery'.


Didn't the Republican run on opposing Hillary and Obama and they won.  I would believe they are just taking the same strategy from the Republican book and using it agains them.  They also seem to be mobilizing again like they did during the Obama years trying to stir up the base and get the to vote.  Just like any political movement, they will do their polls and decide on which issues seem more important to their base and independants who may be feeling buyers remorse with Trump.  Either way it will be interesting to see how the different stages pan out in the coming months.

No, they never ran on the idea of opposing Hillary. Trump ran on the idea of Making America Great Again, thus his campaign slogan. His tactics do not equal his intent for running. Plus he offered some policy that many including myself found intriguing, such as tax cuts. Trump had a clear end game, whether or not you like to admit it. Honestly, if you want to even use this against Trump, you cant avoid the donkey in the room that is Hillary.

I will say at first Hillary ran on policy, not that I agreed with it myself, but at least she put herself out there. But then as more dirt started coming out on here, and I think it peaked around when it was confirmed she had a difference in policies compared to when she spoke to the public, she then focused on her 'Stronger Together' idea, which was her pitfall. She started worrying more about pandering to demographics without giving us an idea of what she stood for. This is the political equivalent to prevent defense in American football. Sure you wont give up the big play right away, but you tend to give up these small gains that end up biting you in the rear end and make you lose. This is exactly what the Democrats are doing now. They are pandering to their base while attacking the right in word form without trying to win over centrists/classical liberals.

The only policy I have heard from liberals consistently as of late is the abolishment of ICE, and let me just say this now, do NOT let this be your running message. This sort of message may easily win you votes in California and New York, but it will cause a bounty of issues in swing states like Michigan, Pennsylvania, Ohio, Florida, and Arizona, with a lot of other states thrown in their too.

Democrats are playing prevent defense in that they're trying to reassure their own base of their own ideas, but when you play prevent defense, the only thing it prevents you from doing is winning.



eva01beserk said:
Eagle367 said:

That stupid kid shield thing is bs. Israeli "army" kills palestinian children without any Hamas for miles on end. They've constantly been breaking international law and expanding their territory. They attack nurses, hospitals, teachers and schools. They control who stays and who doesn't in Palestine which is just next level stupidity. That's like India controlling who gets to stay in pakistan. They force military service on everyone in Israel. Hamas might not be saints but Hamas has no nuclear bombs or sophisticated weaponry that can kill hundreds at a time. If Palestine was oppressing israelis., I would be by the Israeli side but they are not and Israel is which is why supporting Israel is just ignorant when you look at the facts. I watched the entire damn video and that's the only reason he gave. Screw liberals and democrats your little in fighting, it doesn't matter. There are people dying at the hands of a government with the latest military weapons and who want nothing less than the genocide of the palestinian people and they'll make any excuse to do it. Basically almost every decent person around the world, even Jews don't support Israel. They are neutral or on Palestine's side. This is not about Jews at all, I don't care whether Israel was Muslim, Christian, Hindu, Buddhist or atheist. Just like in Burma, there is a conspiracy to commit genocide here as well. The resolution in support of Palestine and against Israel was supported by basically everyone except US and the nation's to afraid to loose US's help. The reverse for a resolution against Hamas. The bigger threat is Israel right now, Hamas doesn't matter

Thats your problem right there. I said they are both guilty of wrong doing. I dont think we have any saints in either side. But the democrats like to paint Israel as the only bad guys. An that is what I believe that guy was upset about in the video. Even if you where right that Palestine is weak and getting dominated and whatever, it does not excuse them. So I will not defend them. And if they loose is on them, or both or something. They been at it for to long for anybody to care who was right or wrong after some much blood spilled on both side. 

I'm not saying Palestinian leadership is innocent. But it's like this: you have two people who hate each other and one has a rock while the other a bomb. Our worry has to be one who is more dangerous. The worst the rock will do is blind people while the bomb can destroy them. So we have to take the weapons away from them before we can have a resolution. The one with the bomb i.e Israel is more dangerous. We neutralise big brother first them small brother is very easy.

Also both democrats and republicans are tools of oligarchs so screw both



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eva01beserk said:
Eagle367 said:
https://youtu.be/SUkQ8pWk6EA
First video I watched from your playlist. If this is what the movement is, which I don't know if it is, then screw #WalkAway since it's supporting terrorists like the Israeli government and the yahoo whose name is Netanyahu who want to basically genocide all palestinians. Non American and thank God. USA is a war monger and terror state just like Israel. I would be happy if the US loses all it's power and I hope it can have a successful economy and people will be happy and content there, but the US army needs to be disintegrated without any fraction of it remaining. Screw this movement if this is what it's about. If not and it's just political, I really don't care

You dint even listen to that short video and just amuse your own narrative. Then not bother to see another one. Typical. 

But no, thats not what #walkaway is about, That was just the reason for that one guy to walk away. There are many different people with different reasons, some petty, some serious. But the most common reason for it is how the left is acting like babys crying over everything. Calling everyone racist(very much like what your doing right now) and seem to want communism. Again, its different for everyone but I believe that is the most common ground between them. 

On the Israel vs the Palestinians thing, I personally believe that the left is definitely getting very racist towards jews, ironic since they call everyone a nazi. But while I wont say they are not guilty in what wrongs they committed over there, the left just defends the Palestinians like if they where saints. Theres been conflict in that area since forever. And Hamas was no good guy, I mean common, he had children for human shields. I say both sides are bad, but the left just jumped to the anti jew side.

Conservatives/Republicans know that when their side is so shitty they can't defend them, they will do anything to try to compare the other side to their level, hence the "both sides" argument is so popular with right wing people. Israel is trying to commit genocide against the Palestinians.



Eagle367 said:
eva01beserk said:

Thats your problem right there. I said they are both guilty of wrong doing. I dont think we have any saints in either side. But the democrats like to paint Israel as the only bad guys. An that is what I believe that guy was upset about in the video. Even if you where right that Palestine is weak and getting dominated and whatever, it does not excuse them. So I will not defend them. And if they loose is on them, or both or something. They been at it for to long for anybody to care who was right or wrong after some much blood spilled on both side. 

I'm not saying Palestinian leadership is innocent. But it's like this: you have two people who hate each other and one has a rock while the other a bomb. Our worry has to be one who is more dangerous. The worst the rock will do is blind people while the bomb can destroy them. So we have to take the weapons away from them before we can have a resolution. The one with the bomb i.e Israel is more dangerous. We neutralise big brother first them small brother is very easy.

Also both democrats and republicans are tools of oligarchs so screw both

Insane argument. Again war going on since forever. Both had ups and down. Cuz one side is wining they dont automatically become the bad guys. Only reason one side is dominating now is because is allied with all the powerfull nations. I say stay out it. Nothing good will come from anyone getting in the middle. Im sick and tired of the US getting drag into another war because we have to pretend to be world police.



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