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So, finished the video.
From the first ten minutes it seemed like the guy was just trained (probably by listening to idiots) to feel like any and all signs of inclusions are "unjustified", "not called for" and generally bad.

But to make a 20 minutes video just grasping at straws it seems ridiculous.
So, if you skipped the video:
- Naughty Dog retweets too much gay fanart
- Neil Druckmann likes the "bad woman who don't like gamers >:("
- I didn't like the PSX moderator
- This actor is trans aaaaaaaaaaaaaa; (is he not good enough to play a secondary character in TLoU? Dunno)
- Where was the context for the kiss? I need the full backstory of the character here, what's this A TRAILER!?!
- They're not showing Joel!!!!! This means he's dead; and the SJWs KILLED HIM
- Where's Cutter? (in the multiplayer, bless him)

It's all very much nonsense, masquerading as "legitimate concerns" for the game.
A real takeaway is how he never touches on the actual quality of the games he mentions, despite Neil being quite open as to how he approaches writing.
Hell, you can see references to Anita in his presentation about writing women in TLoU!!! The one where he's about to reveal his, quote, "SECRET AGENDA", but then we cut away from him. Jeez, I wonder why....

In all seriousness, can we stop reposting amateurs arguing in bad faith? "Social Justice is infecting ND" barely warrants an eye-roll, far less a thread



Tulipanzo said:

So, finished the video.
From the first ten minutes it seemed like the guy was just trained (probably by listening to idiots) to feel like any and all signs of inclusions are "unjustified", "not called for" and generally bad.

But to make a 20 minutes video just grasping at straws it seems ridiculous.
So, if you skipped the video:
- Naughty Dog retweets too much gay fanart
- Neil Druckmann likes the "bad woman who don't like gamers >:("
- I didn't like the PSX moderator
- This actor is trans aaaaaaaaaaaaaa; (is he not good enough to play a secondary character in TLoU? Dunno)
- Where was the context for the kiss? I need the full backstory of the character here, what's this A TRAILER!?!
- They're not showing Joel!!!!! This means he's dead; and the SJWs KILLED HIM
- Where's Cutter? (in the multiplayer, bless him)

It's all very much nonsense, masquerading as "legitimate concerns" for the game.
A real takeaway is how he never touches on the actual quality of the games he mentions, despite Neil being quite open as to how he approaches writing.
Hell, you can see references to Anita in his presentation about writing women in TLoU!!! The one where he's about to reveal his, quote, "SECRET AGENDA", but then we cut away from him. Jeez, I wonder why....

In all seriousness, can we stop reposting amateurs arguing in bad faith? "Social Justice is infecting ND" barely warrants an eye-roll, far less a thread

Well he still has the right to question it. Its not like he is the only one that feels this way. ND could just say that they aren't working on some kind of agenda instead of telling the people who have the concern to fuck off because the games are not made for them.



KLXVER said:
Tulipanzo said: stuff

Well he still has the right to question it. Its not like he is the only one that feels this way. ND could just say that they aren't working on some kind of agenda instead of telling the people who have the concern to fuck off because the games are not made for them.

Yes. People have the right to have emotionally immature, and half-baked opinions on things.

ND is in the business of selling millions of games. I seriously doubt they're telling anyone "to fuck off because the games are not made for them."



specialk said:
KLXVER said:

Well he still has the right to question it. Its not like he is the only one that feels this way. ND could just say that they aren't working on some kind of agenda instead of telling the people who have the concern to fuck off because the games are not made for them.

Yes. People have the right to have emotionally immature, and half-baked opinions on things.

ND is in the business of selling millions of games. I seriously doubt they're telling anyone "to fuck off because the games are not made for them."

You didn't watch the video, did you?



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KLXVER said:
specialk said:

Yes. People have the right to have emotionally immature, and half-baked opinions on things.

ND is in the business of selling millions of games. I seriously doubt they're telling anyone "to fuck off because the games are not made for them."

You didn't watch the video, did you?

Watched about half of it. What I saw seemed like a list of extremely silly things to be concerned about. Tulipanzo's recap confirms that the rest of it is much like what I watched.



specialk said:
KLXVER said:

You didn't watch the video, did you?

Watched about half of it. What I saw seemed like a list of extremely silly things to be concerned about. Tulipanzo's recap confirms that the rest of it is much like what I watched.

Well skip to around 14:30 and you can see what I mean.



Fear Effect 2 did the lesbian thing better anyways...



specialk said:
KLXVER said:

You didn't watch the video, did you?

Watched about half of it. What I saw seemed like a list of extremely silly things to be concerned about. Tulipanzo's recap confirms that the rest of it is much like what I watched.

I will save you the trouble of watching the horrible video:



 

do we really need this thread? there's nothing here worthy of being discussed and is actually embarrassing to see anyone miffed about a game featuring a queer main character. the only agenda i see here is an anti-inclusive one. too many people rather pretend minorities don't exist than to see them being entitled to the modicum amount of representation.

the dude literally brought up him not caring about his dutch accent being represented as if that is comparable in anyway lol.



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