DonFerrari said:
Didn't say you said it, but just look to other post I answered here and also a lot of threads were pro-Nintendo fans call devs dumb and hateful for not porting a game over. |
I'm not responsible for what other people say.
DonFerrari said:
Didn't say you said it, but just look to other post I answered here and also a lot of threads were pro-Nintendo fans call devs dumb and hateful for not porting a game over. |
I'm not responsible for what other people say.
curl-6 said:
I'm not responsible for what other people say. |
I know, but when you are replying to that point it must be taken in consideration. But we both agree companies make mistakes that sometimes can even appear dumble in hindsight. But no coompany makes decision intend to lose money so they can giggle =]
So for Switch case some may have thought before release that it wouldn't be major hit, others may just though their genre isn't that much sellable on Nintendo or just not compatible port possible. Some of those estimates could be wrong but I wouldn't say it's prepaposterous decisions most of time.
And most people calling high ups on companies dumb probably would made dumber decisions if they were in similar position.
duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"
http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363
Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"
http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994
Azzanation: "PS5 wouldn't sold out at launch without scalpers."
DonFerrari said:
I know, but when you are replying to that point it must be taken in consideration. But we both agree companies make mistakes that sometimes can even appear dumble in hindsight. But no coompany makes decision intend to lose money so they can giggle =] So for Switch case some may have thought before release that it wouldn't be major hit, others may just though their genre isn't that much sellable on Nintendo or just not compatible port possible. Some of those estimates could be wrong but I wouldn't say it's prepaposterous decisions most of time. |
Yeah, naturally there's people on both sides of the debate who take things to the extreme. And I agree, no company makes bad decisions on purpose just for giggles, it's just that we can't always know at the time if the choice we're making will turn out to be the best one.
curl-6 said:
Yeah, naturally there's people on both sides of the debate who take things to the extreme. And I agree, no company makes bad decisions on purpose just for giggles, it's just that we can't always know at the time if the choice we're making will turn out to be the best one. |
Yep people go to extreme when they want to defend a point. But I'm pleased that game by game Switch is showing that it can sell 3rd party games
duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"
http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363
Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"
http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994
Azzanation: "PS5 wouldn't sold out at launch without scalpers."
DonFerrari said:
If they are those then your measure for success comparing to other platforms already get disproven by you. |
Say what? I have no clue what that means.
When the herd loses its way, the shepard must kill the bull that leads them astray.
curl-6 said:
I'm not responsible for what other people say. |
That's a cool pattern I watched. It doesn't matter for which company, many argue: "But I found somewhere in the internet some fan who said somethign ridiculous, so you're a fan of the same company, you're responsible and have to argue that." It happens for Sony-fans, Nintendo-fans, Apple-fans or whatever-fans.
Mnementh said:
That's a cool pattern I watched. It doesn't matter for which company, many argue: "But I found somewhere in the internet some fan who said somethign ridiculous, so you're a fan of the same company, you're responsible and have to argue that." It happens for Sony-fans, Nintendo-fans, Apple-fans or whatever-fans. |
Don is especially bad at this, ive noticed him do it multiple recently.
When the herd loses its way, the shepard must kill the bull that leads them astray.
zorg1000 said:
Don is especially bad at this, ive noticed him do it multiple recently. |
Yeah and so bad at it... no one even said the devs were dumb in this thread right it was somewhere else on the internet... and I said Curl-6 said it right?
duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"
http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363
Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"
http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994
Azzanation: "PS5 wouldn't sold out at launch without scalpers."
DonFerrari said:
Yeah and so bad at it... no one even said the devs were dumb in this thread right it was somewhere else on the internet... and I said Curl-6 said it right? |
You responded to curl: "So no i refuse to accept the idea of them being DUMB"
I mean how do you not see how this comes off as you telling him hes calling them dumb? Like i said, ive seen you do this a few times recently, even to me on one or two occasions.
I believe its not intentional but if youre going to respond to someone and argue against points they never made then its probably best to state you arent referring to them from the start.
When the herd loses its way, the shepard must kill the bull that leads them astray.
DonFerrari said:
Yeah and so bad at it... no one even said the devs were dumb in this thread right it was somewhere else on the internet... and I said Curl-6 said it right? |
Nobody said that you said curl said it. I explicitly said, that these opinions are taken from someone else and a third person has to argue this. You said it yourself so:
"I know, but when you are replying to that point it must be taken in consideration."
No, it mustn't taken into consideration, what someone else says to justify my argument.
It isn't something from you alone (I don't make checklists who made which argument fallacy how often), I just noticed it in many people. And it happens to Sony fans the same, that to their argument is replied: "But some random person who happens to be Sony fan said ..."
I didn't meant to single you out, it was just the moment taht I had to express my general disappointment about this argumental strategy. So please don't take it personal, I don't even know if you do stuff like that more often, as I said, I only notice the behaviour and forget who it was. I only noticed it is used against all sides, not only Nintendo.