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Chazore said:
GOWTLOZ said:

Do you even read. I said indie games differ vastly when it comes to their demand. I showed Assetto Corsa as one extreme of what indie games can be. PUBG is certainly more demanding than the majority of indie games and shouldn't be downplayed just because its indie.

I didn't give mobile AA the pros. Go read again what I said. But to me its evident that PUBG mobile is better visually than Wolfenstein 2 on Switch. As for GOW, if you're pointing out some sort of bias, I could point out your constant defending of everything PC and Switch and your entire history is filled with that stuff. I on the other hand have said a few times that BOTW was absolutely amazing and so is FH3. I hold no bias towards any platform but with your post history the same can't be said for you.

It doesn't matter if phones are for calling if they can play games and play them better than dedicated consoles. The same could be said for PC, its not designed for gaming, it just so happens to play games.

Why yes, yes I do.

Uhh, me calling PuB not being legitimately (because legit seemed to fly completely over your head, so I'll spell it out in full, since you claimed I couldn't read, you couldn't via short spelling) demanding isn't "downplaying". The devs have shown that they have fallen behind on optimizing their game, which has been pointed out via Xbox and PC levels of performance. The game is factually in no way the next "crysis" of video games, both visual and performance wise. The devs have also acknowledged that their game does inf act need optimizing and they have stated that they wish to work on that area of the game.

By not giving out the cons for mobile AA, but giving cons to the Switch you basically put it as a bonus for mobile. The fact that you're using an indie game known for it's bad optimization and visuals compared to an actual AAA game tells me that you do not understand actual quality is, let alone performance. If PuB works easily on mobile, then it would for Switch, either that or the devs are bad at porting toi the device, because other devs have shown that you can get it right with the Switch as long as you know what you are doing and are actually competent. 

Yeah, except I care for multiple platforms, and in general multiple games as well, so yes thank you for pointing out my love for more than one game, one franchise and one system

I on the other hand actually see beauty in other games that aren't AAA based, and those that are. I too think BotW looks like a good game visually, especially when it's beauty is amplified via Cemu. The same cannot be said for you either mate, but nice try trying to one up me and making yourself look better. That won't work here, nor will it work a second time within this thread. If you want to now make that the center of discussion, you will have to take it up via PM, because it will only serve as derailment (as well as painting a target of "I've got it in for this guy" all over your back).

It does actually. Phones have a primary design and they exist for their primary purpose. Gaming to mobiles is but a secondary function, like most other apps on a phone are designed for and around.

Playing them "better" is another thing entirely, but to claim that Mobile>Switch would just bring out the fan wars on both sides, and this site needs none of that trite. 

Btw, without a PC we wouldn't have anything, just throwing that out there. No need to "throw" something back, it's something that doesn't need a rebuttal to, because it's a fact that without a PC, we wouldn't even have games. 

PUBG is graphically superior to most indie games. Is it that this somehow eludes you? I've said it a few times that it can't be called just another indie game when discussing graphics which is what you did to downplay the game.

I pointed the cons of PUBG too, another point you skipped. I said it doesn't have the visual effects of Wolfenstein 2 but the resolution more than makes up for it.

You say you care for multiple platforms, and I said the same thing. You care for PC and Switch while downplaying everything PS4 and Xbox One, PS4 in particular. No gamer cares for just one franchise, your point is just plain dumb. I like GOW, BOTW, Gran Turismo, Assassin's Creed, Infamous, Forza, Dark Souls and lots of other franchises. I like PC and PS4 gaming. Your argument is to paint yourself as a hardcore gamer who is more enlightened than the rest of us. Its bogus and pretentious.

I never said anything when it comes to GOW and BOTW's graphics. Don't know why discussion of a Switch game warrants discussion of another Switch game. BOTW isn't a shooter. Stop bringing its visuals in a discussion of Pubg Mobile and Wolfenstein 2 graphics. There are no Android and iOS exclusive AAA games to compare.

PC is to make games but its not there to play games. Most people don't play games on PC and atleast didn't build a PC for gaming. Smartphones and PC's are for many purposes.



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GOWTLOZ said:

PUBG is graphically superior to most indie games. Is it that this somehow eludes you? I've said it a few times that it can't be called just another indie game when discussing graphics which is what you did to downplay the game.

I pointed the cons of PUBG too, another point you skipped. I said it doesn't have the visual effects of Wolfenstein 2 but the resolution more than makes up for it.

You say you care for multiple platforms, and I said the same thing. You care for PC and Switch while downplaying everything PS4 and Xbox One, PS4 in particular. No gamer cares for just one franchise, your point is just plain dumb. I like GOW, BOTW, Gran Turismo, Assassin's Creed, Infamous, Forza, Dark Souls and lots of other franchises. I like PC and PS4 gaming. Your argument is to paint yourself as a hardcore gamer who is more enlightened than the rest of us. Its bogus and pretentious.

I never said anything when it comes to GOW and BOTW's graphics. Don't know why discussion of a Switch game warrants discussion of another Switch game. BOTW isn't a shooter. Stop bringing its visuals in a discussion of Pubg Mobile and Wolfenstein 2 graphics. There are no Android and iOS exclusive AAA games to compare.

PC is to make games but its not there to play games. Most people don't play games on PC and atleast didn't build a PC for gaming. Smartphones and PC's are for many purposes.

It's really, really not graphically superior to other indie games. That's you looking at it with favour and rose tinted glasses. There are indie games out there that look visually stunning both artistic and graphical wise. it's not just PuB and nothing more out there, that's completely narrow minded and stupid to boot. 

The way it's been running and tossed into early access from the get go, it can be considered one by those standards. 

The resolution doesn't somehow trump an actual AAA studio and it;s original quality.

I have friends that game on PS4, Switch, PC and Xbox, and tbh, I own the Switch, 3DS, N3DS and the PC, so that's what I game on, that's naturally what I am going to care for. The same can be said for those who only game on PS4 and don't care for anything else, same goes for everyone that just games on one platform alone. Telling me that I should care fro what you care for is just plain stupid and doesn't work that way.

There are people out there that care for a franchise above others, but I guess you haven't considered that, especially with genres as well. I am one such person who cares more for the RTS genre that the FPS one, which sits in second place to my liking.

Your argument to present PuB as being something decent is just straight up daft, and the arguments for it all the more.

Yet you feel it was necessary to compare a totally different AAA game on the Switch, with one that isn't even on the Switch to begin with?. Why don't you stop comparing one totally different game with another and two different platforms, one of which is designed for communication first, gaming second. 

PC can do both, and it had to be able to play them in the first place in order to even test them on those systems and devkits. I know you're more than likely to shoot this back as a mirror rebuttal as the saving grace for mobile, but those two aren't the same either.

Actually a lot of people play games on PC, but I guess your ignorance says differently.



Chazore said:
GOWTLOZ said:

PUBG is graphically superior to most indie games. Is it that this somehow eludes you? I've said it a few times that it can't be called just another indie game when discussing graphics which is what you did to downplay the game.

I pointed the cons of PUBG too, another point you skipped. I said it doesn't have the visual effects of Wolfenstein 2 but the resolution more than makes up for it.

You say you care for multiple platforms, and I said the same thing. You care for PC and Switch while downplaying everything PS4 and Xbox One, PS4 in particular. No gamer cares for just one franchise, your point is just plain dumb. I like GOW, BOTW, Gran Turismo, Assassin's Creed, Infamous, Forza, Dark Souls and lots of other franchises. I like PC and PS4 gaming. Your argument is to paint yourself as a hardcore gamer who is more enlightened than the rest of us. Its bogus and pretentious.

I never said anything when it comes to GOW and BOTW's graphics. Don't know why discussion of a Switch game warrants discussion of another Switch game. BOTW isn't a shooter. Stop bringing its visuals in a discussion of Pubg Mobile and Wolfenstein 2 graphics. There are no Android and iOS exclusive AAA games to compare.

PC is to make games but its not there to play games. Most people don't play games on PC and atleast didn't build a PC for gaming. Smartphones and PC's are for many purposes.

It's really, really not graphically superior to other indie games. That's you looking at it with favour and rose tinted glasses. There are indie games out there that look visually stunning both artistic and graphical wise. it's not just PuB and nothing more out there, that's completely narrow minded and stupid to boot. 

The way it's been running and tossed into early access from the get go, it can be considered one by those standards. 

The resolution doesn't somehow trump an actual AAA studio and it;s original quality.

I have friends that game on PS4, Switch, PC and Xbox, and tbh, I own the Switch, 3DS, N3DS and the PC, so that's what I game on, that's naturally what I am going to care for. The same can be said for those who only game on PS4 and don't care for anything else, same goes for everyone that just games on one platform alone. Telling me that I should care fro what you care for is just plain stupid and doesn't work that way.

There are people out there that care for a franchise above others, but I guess you haven't considered that, especially with genres as well. I am one such person who cares more for the RTS genre that the FPS one, which sits in second place to my liking.

Your argument to present PuB as being something decent is just straight up daft, and the arguments for it all the more.

Yet you feel it was necessary to compare a totally different AAA game on the Switch, with one that isn't even on the Switch to begin with?. Why don't you stop comparing one totally different game with another and two different platforms, one of which is designed for communication first, gaming second. 

PC can do both, and it had to be able to play them in the first place in order to even test them on those systems and devkits. I know you're more than likely to shoot this back as a mirror rebuttal as the saving grace for mobile, but those two aren't the same either.

Actually a lot of people play games on PC, but I guess your ignorance says differently.

I said most. It looks better than the majority of indie games. Most of them are top down and side scrollers.

I'm not talking of production values I'm talking of graphics and resolutions and PUBG's visuals trump those of Wolfenstein 2.

Ah that proves the point. You only have Nintendo platforms and PC. I atleast have a Switch though haven't played it since SMO, due to a lack of interesting games. My Switch and PS3 are collecting dust atm but they still have quality games. You are missing out, you don't have access to the catalog of games which I do, so contrary to your point I have played far more games than you.

FPS isn't my jam. My favourite genre is hack and slash. Second simulation racing, third open world games. I don't play PUBG in FPP I play it in TPP. God of War isn't my favourite franchise, its Dark Souls. Lots of assumptions on your side.

The point of this discussion is to tell people that smartphones can play amazing games. Its also that PUBG is really good. The Switch comparison was to give some perspective on a free game on a phone being better looking than a $60 game on a console.

There are millions playing on smartphones as well but its not to say they bought a phone to play games. I know PC gamers who are on Steam that don't play a lot of games and made a PC and bought a laptop to do something productive.



And by most you're still off by a mile. IF you want actual quality in visuals then take a look at the latest ARMA title or Star Citizen. Even games like Battlefield 1 and V look more advanced than PuBG ever will, as well as running better to boot.

When you compare a game like PuB to a AAA game, values all around are going to be thrown in, not just a silly res war argument. Uhh, PuB's don't trump Wolf 2.

Ahh that doesn't prove the point, but nice try none the less. I've owned previous systems from PS1-2-3 and 360, as well as numerous handhelds in the past as well, so no, I don't "just own" Nintendo and PC systems. I Currently play on my Switch because that happens to be the latest system I have bought this year and expecting me to dust off a PS1 in 2018 to play more of over the switch is frankly absurd and entirely subjective to argue for in the first place.

"I at least have a Switch though"

Yeah I mentioned that I own one as well, not sure what bonus point that has to do with anything, let alone authorizing you to place yourself magically above me. My Switch and PC are getting more active use than any of the old systems I've owned in the past, mostly because one is a recent purchase and the other has multiple uses from me on a daily basis. My phone however sits on the bedside table for when calls are to be made or received, so that's the second platform to get used the least.

I'm not missing out on what I've already played before, again nice try but that "missing out card" is so old by now that it's being warped as more of a weapon in an argument than actually knowing what someone has actually played/liked/ and not liked/not played.

I've been alive far longer than you mate, and I've played more than you as well, so you can get off that high horse.

That's a shame, because like you said before "you're missing out". FPS is one of my favorite genres right next to RTS, Sim, RPG, Action, Stealth etc. Lots of assumptions on your side as well, thinking you've played more than me, thinking you know vastly much more, as well as thinking you know what I've played/not played let alone owned. Take a good long look in that mirror and don't come back at me with some low wit retort to defend your chosen words. You assumed, but now I am telling you not to assume, and mirroring what I just said won't even begin to count as an argument, because you assumed to begin with from the get go.

And I and others do not agree with that claim, because so far, the mass media and populace have shown that the mobile industry is hot garbage and filled with tons upon tons of garbage games. PuB being "really good" is entirely subjective, just to let you know, being "really good" isn't anywhere close to being a fact, so let's not waste days arguing that (seriously, going by your late replies and focus, it very well could roll like this).

Your comparison was basically warped from the start to give PuB a better image. Diligaf that you mentioned some Switch points, you still love PuB and thus want to make that look better at the end of the day, otherwise you'd call both 5/05/ perfect and good and be done with the topic, but instead it's become one over the other.

Yes millions of people own a phone if not billions. Phones are a common necessity in today's society, though gaming with them is not, as that is more of a luxury past time.

And I know a lot of people that bought and built their own PC's to play games and do streaming with them, as well as video editing to upload gameplay on sites like Youtube. Next please.



GOWTLOZ said:

I said most. It looks better than the majority of indie games. Most of them are top down and side scrollers.

I think a game that has a simple art style and nails it "looks better" than a game that shoots for the moon and misses by a (figurative) mile.

PUBG looks like ass. Just because it is trying to do something that most indie games don't, doesn't mean it looks better, and there is really no reason to let it slide on the fact that it both looks like ass and runs like ass.



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sundin13 said:
GOWTLOZ said:

I said most. It looks better than the majority of indie games. Most of them are top down and side scrollers.

I think a game that has a simple art style and nails it "looks better" than a game that shoots for the moon and misses by a (figurative) mile.

PUBG looks like ass. Just because it is trying to do something that most indie games don't, doesn't mean it looks better, and there is really no reason to let it slide on the fact that it both looks like ass and runs like ass.

If I was ever asked on which game to choose from, either PuB or BotW, I'd choose BotW in a heartbeat over PuB. Hell, I'll use a non Nintendo game with an amazing art style, one like Trine. I'd choose Trine over PuB any day. That and Borderlands. 

As much as I like Skyrim, it looks like utter garbage without mod support and updated textures/audio/combat. A game like PuB, which is always online and PVP based will never get the saving grace that ES games have had for years. it also didn't help that PuB came out looking and running like complete arse. Their style of visual fidelity will age rapidly over time than those found in artistic titles like Trine, BotW, Rayman, Don't Starve, Borderlands etc.



I'm sorry for you.



BraLoD said:
I'm sorry for you.

Why so.



GOWTLOZ said:
BraLoD said:
I'm sorry for you.

Why so.

PUBG looks horribly boring.



BraLoD said:
GOWTLOZ said:

Why so.

PUBG looks horribly boring.

Looks, but its fun.

For sometime. I'm over it.