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pxrocks said:
In Previous generation PlayStation was begging for cross play with Xbox and Nintendo but this gen Xbox and Nintendo begging for cross play with PlayStation.its so funny but imo PlayStation doing the right thing here and they shouldn't feel pressure from some fanboys.playstation always supported cross play with PC but business wise not good to give your player base to your competition.just continue having cross play with PC,iOS,Android and everyone will be happy because 99% of players will be on that platform.

Whats up with all these people so quick to defend Sony that they don't even get the point?

No one's complaining about cross play. People don't want to play with or against PS4 owners. People just want their accounts that they have progress and paid content on. Epic accounts, third party accounts completely separate from Sony.



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LudicrousSpeed said:
pxrocks said:
In Previous generation PlayStation was begging for cross play with Xbox and Nintendo but this gen Xbox and Nintendo begging for cross play with PlayStation.its so funny but imo PlayStation doing the right thing here and they shouldn't feel pressure from some fanboys.playstation always supported cross play with PC but business wise not good to give your player base to your competition.just continue having cross play with PC,iOS,Android and everyone will be happy because 99% of players will be on that platform.

Whats up with all these people so quick to defend Sony that they don't even get the point?

No one's complaining about cross play. People don't want to play with or against PS4 owners. People just want their accounts that they have progress and paid content on. Epic accounts, third party accounts completely separate from Sony.

And also missing the point that Sony doesn't block transfer from other platforms.  Rather, they allow it without any warning that once an account is linked to PSN, it is trapped on PSN.  So if you racked up 500 hours on Xbox Onr X and then linked to PSN to play with a friend or something, your progress is now stuck on PS4.  Sony's  not just blocking crossplay, they have laid out a trap to try and force Fortnite players to play on PS4 as the only console option.



KLXVER said:
wow this actually hit the news on TV. Sony is probably working to fix this as we speak.

One would hope but I'm not holding my breath.



Unfortunately, it looks like Sony's got too confident during this generation. It got me worried about PS5 tbh.



Aeolus451 said:
PortisheadBiscuit said:

I'd love for you to provide a source that proves a large percentage of Nintendo fans ran to Sony to get their Zelda and Mario fixes. And when you say fans, does that allude to casual fans or hardcore gamers? Hardcore gamers would be more likely to buy multiple systems right? So they'd end up with a PS4 regardless of how Wii U fared. Don't forget 3DS, lots of fans got their fix there. 

A lot of people are stoping at nothing to defend Sony, what they're doing is anti-gamer no matter which way you look at it. Nintendo and Microsoft have gotten their share of criticism for shady things they've done, Sony isn't exempt. 

Again, use your brain. The 3DS can't play home console multiplatform games. If someone wanted to play any with friends, where would they go? It's fairly obvious that alot of ninty fans own a PS4 considering all of whining over this.

With 80 million PS4s out in the wild, it's not unexpected.

Aeolus451 said:

Hyperbolic. This kind of stuff is normal for all 3. You can't buy a cod game with all the DLC on one console and expect to be able to transfer game progress or dlc over without having to buy/do everything again. That's normal for almost all multiplatform games. People need to stop acting so entitled and get over what's normal. If you were planning on playing it on a certain platform then why grind alot or spend money on the game on a different platform? Because that's pretty stupid.

People were used to being able to log on to their EG account and move it about between PC and mobile but log on to it via PS4 and it gets locked. I'm used to being able to log in to different accounts from various platforms in many things in life. As an example, I can log on to vgchartz or just about any website from any platform be it Windows, Linux, Android, or iOS without any fear of getting my account locked or essentially hijacked by one.

Sony seems to think otherwise and I understand no form of warning is ever given.

This shit is absolutely disgusting. Fuck Sony.

 

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iceland said:
Mr_No said:

It sucks. I don't know exactly why are they doing this, but I bet it has to do with them not wanting the console of their competitors being able to interact with the PSN. That's what I think. Is it petty? Yeah, but I personally don't mind that they've done that. Being on top of the market means they can afford to do controversial things like these, particularly when the opposite side was too adamant on doing this last generation, like shown here, here and here. Which begs the question... why they hell is Sony forced to comply now when they were shot down years ago by the competition? And I'm not making Microsoft a strawman now; I said Sony is being petty. But if Microsoft didn't agree back then to crossplay, why should Sony be obligated to do so now? I say only let PC and mobile use their accounts.

I'm also aware that crossplay isn't exactly the same as using the same account throughout platforms...

inb4 the articles get dismissed for x reasons.

mind blown, So because MS did it last gen it's okay? (also kinda a false equivalence given they're not entirely the same issues) lol No offense but that's some fanboy thinking, you're trying to deflect and point the finger to someone else. We're in a different era, MS has different leadership, what should be the focus is what's in the best interest for the gamers. This will literally benefit everyone, only reason to ever defend this (or any company in the wrong) is to score some imaginary points with them.

With that said, I don't think it's a major issue that needs riots in the streets but also don't defend this shit especially if you wouldn't have if the shoe was on the other foot.

I'm not defending this action (or inaction). I think it is petty and really weird from Sony to block Epic accounts that played on PS4 to access other consoles, whether it is on purpose or not. But Sony can leave it like that if they want with little to no consequence; one of the perks of being on the top of the market. Will it affect them in the long run? Maybe, maybe not. But I honestly don't care if they change something or not, as long as that game plays perfectly on my PS4, which is their main goal. I'm not defending Sony. I just don't give a shit if they do nothing; it's not my problem.

These are indeed different times, with different business philosophies from both companies. But in the end of the day, why should Sony be forced to change it now? It plays well on the PS4, and it's not like the account gets deleted if you log in on another console.

Like I said on my post, I know they're not the same issues. One was allowing players from different platforms to play with each other, this is about not allowing people who used Epic accounts on their PS4 to play on the Switch. There's no need to explain the differences between one or the other.



Aeolus451 said:
Pyro as Bill said:

The writing's on the wall though. More and more games are going the service route. Devs want everyone in the same ecosystem. The bigger a userbase, the longer a game can survive, the longer it survives the more DLC $$$ it makes.

Sony got away with giving Minecraft and Rocket League the middle finger. It'll be interesting to see how they treat FIFA, GTAonline and CoD going forward.

You're forgetting something very important in this. Devs/pubs make more money when gamers buy the game and dlc for it on multiple platforms multiple times. The small devs are willing to bend over backwards in some cases to get as many players as possible but that wouldn't ever happen in something like cod.

Yeah, I'm sure third parties are furious that Nintendo consolidated their home/portable systems. You're using old business models. Didn't Rocket League become big on consoles after Sony gave it away for 'free'? RL, GTA, Minecraft and Fortnite all sell for less than $60 even though they're all good enough to command full price? It may be true that GaaS/Free to Play models can't work for big budget/annualised games but given how much GTA online and Fortnite make ($300M/month = 5M sales @ $60), it's hard to compete with free/discounted when the market is in the billions. Never say never.

Also, some of you are conflating cross play with this when it's not specifically related to that. 

You're correct. No-one's really bothered about PS4-XB cross play. I doubt Switch owners are that concerned about playing with PS4 either. The outrage is from PS4/PC/Mob players who didn't know that connecting to their PSN account would lock their accounts out of the only serious portable option for Fortnite. Ironic that the 'virus' that locks people out of their skins was itself a free skin. It's the definition of a Trojan Horse (Beware Sony Bearing Gifts!!)

Edit: I'm actually with the Sony fans on this one. I fully support Sony's decision to block accounts/crossplay.

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pxrocks said:
In Previous generation PlayStation was begging for cross play with Xbox and Nintendo but this gen Xbox and Nintendo begging for cross play with PlayStation.its so funny but imo PlayStation doing the right thing here and they shouldn't feel pressure from some fanboys.playstation always supported cross play with PC but business wise not good to give your player base to your competition.just continue having cross play with PC,iOS,Android and everyone will be happy because 99% of players will be on that platform.

The bitching isn't about crossplpay. We have known for months that there will be no crossplay with the PS4.

The bitching is about peoples accounts being locked from logging into on a Switch. They want their cosmetics, progression, ect all to carry over to the Switch. They don't give a shit about who they are crossplaying with. They want the stuff they earned and purchased with real money



Acevil said:
d21lewis said:

I haven't ever played Fortnight but I have every console and I downloaded it on the Switch. I tried to test out the gameplay at work and, v without internet, I couldn't do anything. Then, it dawned on me. If, for any reason I decided to play Fortnight, I'd do it on my PS4 Pro or Xbox One X. Why would I play it on the Switch? Lower resolution and framerate? Worse (or the worst) online?

 

I can't think of a situation where the Switch would be a better option for a multi console owner.

If you had internet at work, wouldn't that be the exact option to play? 

I do have the internet at work! But they monitor the network. A guy got in big trouble for looking at porn in his phone while connected to company wifi. They have firewalls for all kinds of sites, too. I kinda feel like playing online games would be a problem. I did test out Mario Kart online a long time ago using my phone as a hotspot, though...



Is this the first time something like this has happened? Heck my slow self thought this was the norm for games lol. Not a big deal in my opinion nor am I defending this. I have never thought about taking my account on a game from my PS4, or XB and transferring it to another one. They were separate and I always used them as such. But I can see why this would upset people and understand why this would stir some people up.



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