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Would you say Smash Ultimate is...

A port 18 14.75%
 
A brand new game 74 60.66%
 
A compilation 23 18.85%
 
Something else 7 5.74%
 
Total:122
LethalP said:
RolStoppable said:
It's a new game. People who think it is a port will learn it the hard way when they realize that they can't play it like SSB4.

Why are people even saying it's a port? Was it not confirmed a new game officially?

People say it out of habit. It's a common thing that a Nintendo game gets wrongly accused of being a port. The people who say it fall into two different categories:

1. Disgruntled Nintendo fans who use extreme hyperbole because they are disappointed for whatever reason. Said reason doesn't even have to do with the game itself.

2. Detractors who are either scared or jealous, but would never admit it.



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Its a Remastered Definitive Edition.



It's a port with new content (like DOA5: Last Round or Ultimate Marvel vs Capcom 3). When a fighting game gets released on new consoles, it would normally include all the DLC and some new bonus content to entice people. I saw nothing outside larger roster and stages that would imply it's a new game. If it an entirely new game, then they certainly cut a lot of corners as it looks exactly like the Wii U game.



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outlawauron said:

It's a port with new content (like DOA5: Last Round or Ultimate Marvel vs Capcom 3). When a fighting game gets released on new consoles, it would normally include all the DLC and some new bonus content to entice people. I saw nothing outside larger roster and stages that would imply it's a new game. If it an entirely new game, then they certainly cut a lot of corners as it looks exactly like the Wii U game.

They've changed the core mechanics of the fighting and I'd say that's more important than having a new look when talking about the game being new.



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It's a compilation of Smash 4 ported with lots of added content and a few gameplay tweaks. Of those 3 options, I'd say it's a compilation.



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TruckOSaurus said:
outlawauron said:

It's a port with new content (like DOA5: Last Round or Ultimate Marvel vs Capcom 3). When a fighting game gets released on new consoles, it would normally include all the DLC and some new bonus content to entice people. I saw nothing outside larger roster and stages that would imply it's a new game. If it an entirely new game, then they certainly cut a lot of corners as it looks exactly like the Wii U game.

They've changed the core mechanics of the fighting and I'd say that's more important than having a new look when talking about the game being new.

Is adding an air dash really changing the core mechanics of fighting?



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outlawauron said:

It's a port with new content (like DOA5: Last Round or Ultimate Marvel vs Capcom 3). When a fighting game gets released on new consoles, it would normally include all the DLC and some new bonus content to entice people. I saw nothing outside larger roster and stages that would imply it's a new game. If it an entirely new game, then they certainly cut a lot of corners as it looks exactly like the Wii U game.

They are using a different engine, and the physics  and movement have actually been altered upon closer inspection.

Not sure what to make of this then, more like Nintendo was cutting corners in different ways and reusing a lot of content.

Last edited by Moren - on 12 June 2018

It's a port like MK Deluxe was a port even though it had "new" stuff in it. Disgraceful.



morenoingrato said:
outlawauron said:

It's a port with new content (like DOA5: Last Round or Ultimate Marvel vs Capcom 3). When a fighting game gets released on new consoles, it would normally include all the DLC and some new bonus content to entice people. I saw nothing outside larger roster and stages that would imply it's a new game. If it an entirely new game, then they certainly cut a lot of corners as it looks exactly like the Wii U game.

They are using a different engine, and the physics  and movement have actually been altered upon closer inspection.

Not sure what to make of this then, more like Nintendo was cutting corners in different ways and reusing a lot of content.

Where did you read that it's an entirely new engine?



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outlawauron said:
morenoingrato said:

They are using a different engine, and the physics  and movement have actually been altered upon closer inspection.

Not sure what to make of this then, more like Nintendo was cutting corners in different ways and reusing a lot of content.

Where did you read that it's an entirely new engine?

Whoops. My bad. I read a post saying it was made in Unreal Engine and then I saw Unreal Engine right after Smash, but turns out the Unreal Engine logo was for the entire conference, not for Smash only, so I take it back.

Can't find a credible source to back it up.

Last edited by Moren - on 12 June 2018