where it show NA, japan and europe. it showed japan and europe were basically selling the same till jan 23 2018.

Ah, now I know which one you mean. You mean this one on page 2, right?

Check again please. While both end up at the same level, if you look closely you'll see Europe was actually trailing behind Japan until the holiday season. The reason for that I told you several times already in other threads I think: Higher launch price (330€) because retailers wanted a bigger margin (Nintendo didn't set a MSRP for Europe) and no Fifa until fall. Since then, the price in Europe has normalized to 299€ and Fifa is increasing the baseline in Europe.

Europe is sailing away since then in terms of Hardware sales. Just look at the information from last quarter: Shipments to Japan: 3.78M in the last financial year( meaning excluding the launch month). Europe? 5.33M

At the same time, we have no guarantee the PS4 is still selling so well in Europe

5.33 is for europe and the rest of the world. As for ps4 its been selling amazing in europe since it came out,  we have to assume its till selling great till we have evidence suggesting its not. as for why europe is trailing in japan obviously november/december in europe will be much bigger then japan regular monthly sales.   

The future is never certain.

Just reading the VGChartz Community on PSN, and started thinking, maybe Switch never outsells PS4. I don't think it will happen this year. Looking at next year, I believe we will get a PS4 Super Slim, and we will start seeing PS4/PS5 cross gen games announced that will not come to Switch. The new PS4 Super Slim will likely see a price drop, either $249.99 or $199.99, and I think that plus more SIEWWS titles will be enough to keep it above Switch in 2019. Then if PS5 launches in 2020, it will steal a ton of momentum from both PS4 and Switch, and Switch will start to plato. If Sony also announces a Portable based on the PS5 Architecture, and a shared library, I think Nintendo will be in a load of trouble.

It is going to be very interesting to see how things play out. I think the WiiU is still going to haunt them. They're off cycle releases are going to continue to kill off any hope of 3rd party support. Either they are going to have to ride out Switch tell 2022 - 2023 to give fans a decent life cycle, while having little support, or they will have to cut ties with the Switch early, and release a Switch that can achieve PS5 ports, but possibly make negative waves with their fanbase.

I don't think Nintendo is out of the water yet. So, for now, I think it is very possible Switch never outsells PS4, in any year.

Ah, OK I see, we have a different understanding about what good 3rd-party support means. I agree, the Switch will clearly outdo the support the 3DS/DS and Vita got. It probably gets most of the output of the game studios that worked on these three and additionally most japanese games (although many already were on Vita or 3DS), many Indies and some western high profile games (like the Bethesda ones). If you compare it to XBox One the waters become more muddied. I still think Switch can manage the same level of support or even outdo the XBox One, but it will be a total different library. Of the games I mentioned all the japanese support, most of the former handheld support and some Indies will mmiss the XBox One. Instead it will become western high profile games, which are missing the Switch. So it really depends on what games a gamer prefers for the decision which support looks better. And for the PS4 I sincerely doubt Switch can outdo that level of support or even reach it. Yes, PS4 will probably miss most of the handheld-level support, but it will get the same japanese and indie games (maybe even more, not sure here), while at the same time getting pretty much all of western high profile games. So in level of 3rd-party support it will be Vita < DS/3DS < Switch ~ XB1 < PS4.

For me it will be good, because I dislike many western big games, but really like japanese games. Also I like Nintendo games, which will also be included in the library. And for sales of the device the Nintendo games are obviously very important. This is what sold Wii, DS and 3DS. So how much will the Switch get? I'm not sure here. I think we are past the point that the Switch may stay below 80M in the end. So I clearly see it doing at least 3DS-numbers. It probably can do Wii-numbers. But I see difficulties past 120M. I currently don't see it competitive with PS5 and for DS-levels the Switch costs too much, the DS was much much cheaper. I had multiple DS and many families owned a DS for each child. I don't see that happen with Switch. But that is some years in the future, we'll see.

So you're expecting over 10% of the Shipments going to RoW? Also, how about this one, page 14? Income from Switch in Japan until March 31: 171 Million Yen, Europe 193 Million Yen. Europe is clearly pulling ahead now. And yes I know that's Hardware plus software, but there's no reason to assume a high difference in attach rate between the two.

Also, we don't have to assume that the PS4 still sells as well in Europe as it did before, as saturation is slowly setting in. Not that it's selling bad now, just probably slower. It will certainly still be outselling the Switch 90% of the time there this year, but probably with a diminishing lead.

@italic: had to reread several times to understand what you're saying there. Yes holiday season is bigger in Europe than it is in Japan, but that's beside the point, which is that before the holidays Europe was selling very slowly - less than 25k weekly obviously, as otherwise it would have outsold Japan then already - but that's a thing of the past now, as shown above. 

Multiplat? PC is the best for that, Switch have it own unique exclusive games not the same games like other systems. Also, Monster Hunter World? I'd rather it never come out to Switch, straight hack and slash for casual with contents, monsters, weapons = 1/3 Monster Hunter XX. Keep that casual thing out of Switch!

 "Tell me why Switch didn't get Mass Effect Andromeda, Ghost Recon, For Honor, Sniper Elite 4, Prey, Injustice 2, Shadow Warrior 2, Tekken 7, Dirt 4, Hellblade, Destiny 2, Shadow Of War, The Evil Within 2, CoD WWII, Battlefront II, Assassin's Creed Origins, Monster Hunter World, Far Cry 5, A Way Out, The Crew 2, Agony, Kingdom Come Deliverance, Shadow Of The Tomb Raider, Assassin's Creed Odyssey, Red Dead Redemption 2, CoD Black Ops 4, Battlefield V, Avengers game and many more, yet all of these come to PS4 and Xbox One almost as an obligation?" the same apply to all Switch exclusive games which didn't come to ps4/xbox 1

Yeah, just like any ps3 game which was up port to ps4 and sold 20 million oh wait

Outside Last of us 2, which games you mentioned here can move ps4 that much whenall fans of these games already got ps4 for them? LOL