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Eric2048 said:
Just ignore this thread guys.

You're free to do so of course.

ClassicGamingWizzz said:
Hynad said:

I'm pretty sure you haven't played the game.

That along with the nature of your responses to everything and everyone make me pretty sure this thread was created with an agenda. 

He is an expert, played the first that released like 15 years ago, watched some lets plays of some others cause kratos voice is HOT and now its concerned about GOW changing the formula, what agenda is he doing ? He is just a concerned and totaly unbias individual concerned about the gaming industry, that is why he posted this totally unbias opinion of this game series he clearly proved that he loved, you know. This 94 or 95 metacritic game have the potential to destroy gaming industry forever you know.

"He is an expert"

>I don't consider myself an expert. I defer to Bick Benedict on that front.

"played the first that released like 15 years ago, watched some lets plays of some others cause kratos voice is HOT"

>Hey man, I'm just saying the voice acting is great. Over-the-top characters tearing each other apart is my jam.

"and now its concerned about GOW changing the formula, what agenda is he doing ? He is just a concerned and totaly unbias individual concerned about the gaming industry, that is why he posted this totally unbias opinion of this game series he clearly proved that he loved, you know. This 94 or 95 metacritic game have the potential to destroy gaming industry forever you know."

>No, I'm just worried I'll find walking sections in the next Bayonetta. Kind of like single-player game fans worry about an abundance of multiplayer-centric games.

GOWTLOZ said:
KLAMarine said:

No. Are you going to answer my questions?

If it's a joke thread like you say, why are you still here?

I've been answering your questions for the last few replies in a straight forward manner and I can't make them anymore palatable.

But I have yet to get an answer to my question: when did TGB say GoW games were hack-n-slash for kids?



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KLAMarine said:
ArchangelMadzz said:
Wow a guy that blasted the game before it came out didn't like the game?

I'm so surprised.

He does acknowledge there's a possibility the game will be good but laments, based on trailers two years ago, its distancing from its roots.


It's distancing from it's roots because the game would've been boring. No one needed a 5th god of war game just like the others, this isn't MS first party. 



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I have yet to play the game, but based on all the trailers and gameplay I've seen, I feel he has a point. Not just for this game, but the industry as a whole.

A lot of 3rd person games are starting to become very formulaic. Cinematic over the shoulder view, interrupting narration, heavily scripted set pieces and pretentious writing with overly brooding characters. If a game takes itself too seriously, it'll age poorly, assuming it hasn't already fallen flat on release smelling like a bad B-movie.

These things might not all apply to God of War, and it might do a lot of things well, but I can understand why a fan would be disappointed that a series that had quite an original theme and gameplay ends up being rebooted with a burnt out formula.



Shiken said:
Mr Puggsly said:

I feel Sony is essentially making all their action games very similar.

God of War plays more like Dark Souls than the Last of Us.  The only thing it has in common with TLoU is the over the shoulder camera and a child companion.

Uncharted is a fast paced 3rd person shooter during action sequences...nothing like GoW.

Infamous SS is a fast paced sandbox.

Horizon Zero Dawn is more comparible to BotW than any other Sony game, and even then it is still unique.

Knack 2 is an action 3D platformer.

I mean come on. are you really trying to say Sony makes their games the same?  That would be MS, who pretty much seems to cancel anything that is different from their usual formula.  I am suprised Sea of Thieves made it, and despite the low scores, it is the one XBox exclusive to interest me since Sunset Overdrive.

But I digress...

God of War needed to evolve, Acension proved that.  SSM did an amazing job with this sequel/reboot and I do not agree with most points made by this guy.  While you cannot please everyone, the incredible reception of the game is proof that they made the right decision to change the focus and mix it up.

I'm referring to the heavy story focus, the graphics are starting to look similar between their games, the gameplay mechanics are leaning more towards realism (huge change for GoW). It feels like GoW evolved into something similar like other Sony games. I see similarities between Uncharted, TLoU, The Order, Horizon and now GoW. I'm not really complaining, its just the direction Sony has gone and it works for them.

Infamous:SS is an exception as that basically a super hero game. Knack is more hack n' slash, but also irrelevant.

The biggest issues with Ascension wasn't the gameplay. The story wasn't interesting and world felt uninspired. I would make the same argument for Gears Judgement, the gameplay was still good but other aspects that were lacking. While a game like Halo Reach felt fresh and raised the bar for the IP.

I like the new GoW, but it also make me yearn for a hack n' slash game that isn't so story focused.



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ArchangelMadzz said:
KLAMarine said:

He does acknowledge there's a possibility the game will be good but laments, based on trailers two years ago, its distancing from its roots.


It's distancing from it's roots because the game would've been boring.

Perhaps to you.

ArchangelMadzz said:

No one needed a 5th god of war game just like the others, this isn't MS first party. 

It didn't need to be like the previous games. It could have improved upon its old formula but instead Kratos can't jump any more despite Cory's acknowledgement that such a thing would have been fun. It wouldn't make story sense according to him.

brendude13 said:
I have yet to play the game, but based on all the trailers and gameplay I've seen, I feel he has a point. Not just for this game, but the industry as a whole.

A lot of 3rd person games are starting to become very formulaic. Cinematic over the shoulder view, interrupting narration, heavily scripted set pieces and pretentious writing with overly brooding characters. If a game takes itself too seriously, it'll age poorly, assuming it hasn't already fallen flat on release smelling like a bad B-movie.

These things might not all apply to God of War, and it might do a lot of things well, but I can understand why a fan would be disappointed that a series that had quite an original theme and gameplay ends up being rebooted with a burnt out formula.

Not that there's anything wrong with liking these kinds of games. Just that I feel the over-the-shoulder camera angle, walking sections, and parent-child dynamic was already covered by TLoU... Unless the next TLoU won't have these things?

 

Now I'm wondering if this new God of War has a sex mini-game.



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KLAMarine said:
Eric2048 said:
Just ignore this thread guys.

You're free to do so of course.

ClassicGamingWizzz said:

He is an expert, played the first that released like 15 years ago, watched some lets plays of some others cause kratos voice is HOT and now its concerned about GOW changing the formula, what agenda is he doing ? He is just a concerned and totaly unbias individual concerned about the gaming industry, that is why he posted this totally unbias opinion of this game series he clearly proved that he loved, you know. This 94 or 95 metacritic game have the potential to destroy gaming industry forever you know.

"He is an expert"

>I don't consider myself an expert. I defer to Bick Benedict on that front.

"played the first that released like 15 years ago, watched some lets plays of some others cause kratos voice is HOT"

>Hey man, I'm just saying the voice acting is great. Over-the-top characters tearing each other apart is my jam.

"and now its concerned about GOW changing the formula, what agenda is he doing ? He is just a concerned and totaly unbias individual concerned about the gaming industry, that is why he posted this totally unbias opinion of this game series he clearly proved that he loved, you know. This 94 or 95 metacritic game have the potential to destroy gaming industry forever you know."

>No, I'm just worried I'll find walking sections in the next Bayonetta. Kind of like single-player game fans worry about an abundance of multiplayer-centric games.

GOWTLOZ said:

I've been answering your questions for the last few replies in a straight forward manner and I can't make them anymore palatable.

But I have yet to get an answer to my question: when did TGB say GoW games were hack-n-slash for kids?

He said in the God of War 4 rant that God of War games were hack and slash games enjoyed by kids which is an underhanded way of saying that its not on the quality of other hack and slash games that are enjoyed by adults. He's completely wrong about it.



GOWTLOZ said:
KLAMarine said:

You're free to do so of course.

"He is an expert"

>I don't consider myself an expert. I defer to Bick Benedict on that front.

"played the first that released like 15 years ago, watched some lets plays of some others cause kratos voice is HOT"

>Hey man, I'm just saying the voice acting is great. Over-the-top characters tearing each other apart is my jam.

"and now its concerned about GOW changing the formula, what agenda is he doing ? He is just a concerned and totaly unbias individual concerned about the gaming industry, that is why he posted this totally unbias opinion of this game series he clearly proved that he loved, you know. This 94 or 95 metacritic game have the potential to destroy gaming industry forever you know."

>No, I'm just worried I'll find walking sections in the next Bayonetta. Kind of like single-player game fans worry about an abundance of multiplayer-centric games.

But I have yet to get an answer to my question: when did TGB say GoW games were hack-n-slash for kids?

He said in the God of War 4 rant that God of War games were hack and slash games enjoyed by kids which is an underhanded way of saying that its not on the quality of other hack and slash games that are enjoyed by adults. He's completely wrong about it.

Can you give me the minute and second in which TGB says this?



KLAMarine said:
GOWTLOZ said:

He said in the God of War 4 rant that God of War games were hack and slash games enjoyed by kids which is an underhanded way of saying that its not on the quality of other hack and slash games that are enjoyed by adults. He's completely wrong about it.

Can you give me the minute and second in which TGB says this?

No, I'm not watching the video again just to find out a time stamp.

You didn't reply to my answers though. In what way is GOW like TLOU? I've played GOW and TLOU and they play nothing alike.



Not everyone is going to like even that which is universally acclaimed. I thought his reasoning for why he doesn't think the new GOW is worth all the praise it has been getting was pretty good, all things considering. I don't agree with him, but I do see where he's coming from.



GOWTLOZ said:
KLAMarine said:

Can you give me the minute and second in which TGB says this?

No, I'm not watching the video again just to find out a time stamp.

I have gone through the video again and I did not find what you claim was there.

GOWTLOZ said: 

You didn't reply to my answers though. In what way is GOW like TLOU? I've played GOW and TLOU and they play nothing alike.

GoW4 is like TLoU in the following ways: over-the-shoulder camera, kid companion, emphasis on story, and walking sections. Of course considering one has guns and the other does not, they don't play exactly alike. Encounters up-close also look similar. Ellie also sometimes climbed up to places to fetch ladders and from what I understand, the kid in GoW4 is sent up to higher places to help Kratos climb up. Also like TLoU, I believe there's an emphasis on the relationship between Kratos and the kid.