dude, what do u want me to say? someone said communism and fascism are both left wing ideologies, i said nope, then u said nope, then i said, ok dope.

Strange that there are so many Russia fans here. Putin's propaganda machine seems to be working better than I expected.
I for one am happy Trump has made it more difficult for Assad to use chemical weapons.

That was a pretty roundabout way of avoiding to answer the question.

Well, your posts afterwards muddied it. In regards to Mussolini specifically, yes he was a socialist before but he had dropped those leanings when he embraced fascism. I also gave examples earlier in this thread that dispute Hitler being a socialist, namely the existence of private industry and even privatization of certain sectors. It was the same with fascist Italy:

http://cadmus.eui.eu/handle/1814/12319

So, it's not just baseless to call them right-wing.

we have past evidence of western powers lying to push conflicts

we know that the rebels have links to groups pushing sharia law 

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2013/may/08/free-syrian-army-rebels-defect-islamist-group

the united states has confirmed that the rebels use chemical weapons

https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-10-22/us-now-admits-syrian-rebels-have-used-chemical-weapons

we have loads of evidence that it was the rebels who were backed by the us

http://www.latimes.com/world/worldnow/la-fg-wn-syrian-rebels-sarin-gas-20130913-story.html

http://www.mcclatchydc.com/news/nation-world/world/article24761710.html

https://whowhatwhy.org/2014/12/01/really-used-chemical-weapons-syria/

finally we know that the turmoil in the region was planned

anyone with common sense should wonder how the intention could be to help the syrian people by fucking bombing them... and not just bombing them but by bombing the facilities where the chemicals are being stored... i mean jesus christ you don't have to be a rocket scientist to put two and two together here

...the information is out there for anyone who wants to stop being a puppet

first thread back on here

great

"Employment for all is a bipartisan issue.  

How they achieve that is different.  

One thing conservatives tend to believe is that everyone should get a job and that decreasing taxes will allow companies to invest in more employees."

huh? even though they also advocate for women to be stay at home mothers and home makers?

and no, disregarding that, i don't agree with you that conservatives have employment for all as one of their main agendas

that's always been a leftist talking point

"Way to take "facts" from an email that was being sent around.  Those things are just super reliable. "

way to dismiss history when it doesn't suit your ideology

"VGP shared a link with several pages of how they weren't left wing in economics."

he touted the same idea you did about privitisation of businesses and i have rebutted that with the fact that hitler still maintained control over those businesses

" He killed Communists and socialists. "

so? is your argument here that people never kill other people who have their ideology? and how is this a "right wing policy" regardless?

" He heavily believed in many of the same talking points that I hear from the right about cultural homogeneity."

he wanted to create the superman by controlling the breeding of the aryan people... in other words he was into eugenics believing that other races contaminated the aryans and as a result he needed to breed pure aryans

so he had policies in place to facilitate eugenics to achieve that... but is that right wing? i'm not sure maybe you might be able to flesh that out

so after reading this paragraph... not really seeing anything about right wing policies... and i'm not at all surprised since just about any policies we can name outside of the so called "privitisation" of business were socialist

but if i'm wrong go on and have another go at it and this time please address the actual question i've asked you

"give me some examples of his right wing policies outside of the semantic games being used to push this idea that he privatised business"

The Nazi's had nothing to do with the health care system during the Third Reich. The healthcare system that is currently in place in Germany goes back to the 1880's. Plus its not that socialist since its a multi-payer health care system. Most socialists, progressives and people on the left are in favor of a single payer healthcare system.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Healthcare_in_Germany

It's not "word gymnastics," it's a fact of history. Basically, Marxist socialism is synonymous with socialism today - while National socialism is synonymous with fascism (and not socialism). Think of it this way, in Switzerland and Austria potatoes are called "Ground Apples" however, such a thing does not occur in English at all, apples refer specifically to the fruit that grows on trees, and never the tubers that grow in the ground that you call potatoes.

Socialism since the 1920s has evolved to mean Marxism; but, historically socialism was used to ALSO refer to other things such as State Socialism, and Nationalism Socialism is no different; and National Socialism is in extreme opposition to Marxist socialism (or, just socialism as we call it today). The proper translation (especially into English) would be fascism, the only time we call fascism "socialism" is when we are studying history and using the words they used.

In terms of the "Nationalism" stuff, if that is aimed at me, it's a misrepresenting of what I wrote. I specified that the term "Nationalism" is less extreme than what the Nazis were doing - my post specifically states that the Nazi Nationalism was about the (genetic) superiority of the Aryan master race and German culture.

Anyway, back to the fun topic of fascism. It is a very different thing from socialism (Marxism) and communism. I illustrated some of them in an earlier post, but some major differences:

* Communism eliminates class distinction, has no profit incentive, no concept of nationalism, and either a representative government or anarchy.
* Socialism aims to eliminate class distinction, equalize income, and have an all-inclusive economy no matter gender, race, or creed.
* Fascism aims to maintain and regulate class distinction, give profit incentive based on merit, and has a strong sense of national values (which may include extreme racism) and extreme Social-Darwinistic policy.

In Marxist theory, socialism is a step toward communism.
Fascism takes no such steps, it is as opposed to communism as capitalism is. The ultimate goal of fascism is the increasing of the power of the nation. Those who do not fit the national identity are relegated to a lower class: reasons included genetic background, culture, creed, sexuality, and other defects (defects, as in anything that differs from the national ideal - in Germany, this was the Aryan master-race). Fascists enslaved and executed people who were deemed inferior in the name of the good of the nation (as in the German cultured of the Aryan race).

While fascism was against capitalism in theory, it still employed capitalistic supply and demand mechanisms. Where it differs from capitalism is the state-regulation; you couldn't have a Steve Jobs or Jeff Bezos style billionaires (or "Jew-like cheats" as Hitler would refer to them) - in addition, competition was not legal, so (for example) it would be illegal Starbucks to come in and sell coffee for cheaper than the other shops - while capitalism encourages that sort of competition.

It seems like it's only a matter of time until the Cohen raid leads to the implosion of the Trump Organization.

By Trump's own logic, he is a rampant criminal who is trying to hide systemic fraud and malfeasance.