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Alkibiádēs said:
Azuren said:

Global market > Japanese market. We'll see a bunch of weird Japanese niche games on Switch, but the important titles will still be PS4.

Not many businesses can survive by completely ignoring their domestic market.

Besides Monster Hunter World Playstation has lost many (console) exclusives already to the Switch, this trend will only become more noticeable as time goes on. 

Exclusives lost: 

- Valkyria Chronicles

- Ys VIII: Lacrimosa of Dana

- Disgaea 5

- Dragon Quest XI (the UE4 version)

- Dragon Quest Builders 1 & 2

Switch exclusives: 

- The Snack World: Gold Trejares 

- Yokai Watch 4

- Octopath Traveler

- The World Ends With You: Final Remix

- Shin Megami Tensei V

- Travis Strikes Again: No More Heroes

- Bayonetta 3

It won't surprise me at all if franchises like Persona will become multi-platform this gen either. It's also only a matter of time before Dragon Ball FigtherZ is announced for Switch.

For the first time ever a From Software game will also come to a Nintendo platform (Dark Souls Remastered). 

 

You know that comparing Exclusives "lost" by the PS4 to Switch's worthwhile upcoming Exclusives (except Snack World, lol) isn't exactly relative, right? Why not mention the (console) exclusives PS4 hasn't lost?:

 

Besides that, I wouldn't be surprised if SMTV made it's way to PS4 at the same time should Persona 5 make it to Switch (tit for tat). And for the record, I don't not want games on the Switch. I want Nintendo to succeed, because they've actually got something acceptable going on right now (no dual screen shenanigans). But the fact remains that ignoring the global market in favor of only the native market is by all accounts just a really bad idea.



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Azuren said:
Alkibiádēs said:

Not many businesses can survive by completely ignoring their domestic market.

Besides Monster Hunter World Playstation has lost many (console) exclusives already to the Switch, this trend will only become more noticeable as time goes on. 

Exclusives lost: 

- Valkyria Chronicles

- Ys VIII: Lacrimosa of Dana

- Disgaea 5

- Dragon Quest XI (the UE4 version)

- Dragon Quest Builders 1 & 2

Switch exclusives: 

- The Snack World: Gold Trejares 

- Yokai Watch 4

- Octopath Traveler

- The World Ends With You: Final Remix

- Shin Megami Tensei V

- Travis Strikes Again: No More Heroes

- Bayonetta 3

It won't surprise me at all if franchises like Persona will become multi-platform this gen either. It's also only a matter of time before Dragon Ball FigtherZ is announced for Switch.

For the first time ever a From Software game will also come to a Nintendo platform (Dark Souls Remastered). 

 

You know that comparing Exclusives "lost" by the PS4 to Switch's worthwhile upcoming Exclusives (except Snack World, lol) isn't exactly relative, right? Why not mention the (console) exclusives PS4 hasn't lost?:

 

Besides that, I wouldn't be surprised if SMTV made it's way to PS4 at the same time should Persona 5 make it to Switch (tit for tat). And for the record, I don't not want games on the Switch. I want Nintendo to succeed, because they've actually got something acceptable going on right now (no dual screen shenanigans). But the fact remains that ignoring the global market in favor of only the native market is by all accounts just a really bad idea.

Going with the Switch does not mean ignoring the global market, on the contrary.

The Snack World actually looks quite nice for an enhanced port of a 3DS game: 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EMLx89xpAe8



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Maybe it's good that someone is calling out Sony for taking smaller 3rd parties for granted, don't see the point in apologizing.



melbye said:
Maybe it's good that someone is calling out Sony for taking smaller 3rd parties for granted, don't see the point in apologizing.

How so?



                                                                                                                                                           

CGI-Quality said:
melbye said:
Maybe it's good that someone is calling out Sony for taking smaller 3rd parties for granted, don't see the point in apologizing.

How so?

Because they provide games that many people love and is a good thing to have on Sony-platforms. These smaller publishers kept the Vita alive for years after Sony kinda abandoned it



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Alkibiádēs said:
Azuren said:

You know that comparing Exclusives "lost" by the PS4 to Switch's worthwhile upcoming Exclusives (except Snack World, lol) isn't exactly relative, right? Why not mention the (console) exclusives PS4 hasn't lost?:

 

Besides that, I wouldn't be surprised if SMTV made it's way to PS4 at the same time should Persona 5 make it to Switch (tit for tat). And for the record, I don't not want games on the Switch. I want Nintendo to succeed, because they've actually got something acceptable going on right now (no dual screen shenanigans). But the fact remains that ignoring the global market in favor of only the native market is by all accounts just a really bad idea.

Going with the Switch does not mean ignoring the global market, on the contrary.

The Snack World actually looks quite nice for an enhanced port of a 3DS game: 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EMLx89xpAe8

Going with 16m in lieu of 77m is most definitely ignoring the global market. At best, we'll see games developed for Switch and ported up to PS4 and maybe XB1.

 

It looks kind of interesting, but I got burnt out on top-down brawleRPGs a long time ago.



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melbye said:
CGI-Quality said:

How so?

Because they provide games that many people love and is a good thing to have on Sony-platforms. These smaller publishers kept the Vita alive for years after Sony kinda abandoned it

I think you're using a fairly fast and loose definition of the term "taking for granted". I don't think Sony was cupping their hands and asking any of the Japanese publishers in question to, "please and thank you, my kids need shoes" support the Vita.



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loy310 said:

Dont get why he would publicly come out and say something along the lines of Sony not being friendly to pubs his size.
So you come out paint that picture, so now pubs your size that reads this think “hmm, maybe i should just deal with nintendo only”.
See when you a big mouth its bad for business for everyone you partner with.

Should have kept some of thoes comments to himself. Not only should he say sorry but also correct the image of Sony he just created in this interview. I mean sony, nin, and ms are only out there looking for the best deals for their platforms. If this is not the case then i would like to know what nin said to him that convinced him to make the deal with nin and he could not go back to sony for a counter offer, you know like how we do in business?

What I got out of his comments wasn't so much Sony being unfriendly ,more along the lines of we have made a deal with Sony but talking to Nintendo about porting the game, they  heard that Nintendo would be willing tol give them a guaranteed sales bottom line number by way of a guaranteed minimum number of orders but in return want exclusivity, knowing they already had a deal with Sony that prevented them from making it fully Nintendo only they fell back on digital for Sony versus Physical exclusive to Nintendo , so really it was just about nisa being given incentives to make the game exclusive to switch rather than just porting it, and them trying to get around their Sony deal , his fault wasn't so much talking about it, if he just said nintendo 's deal was to good to turn down and left Sony and snk out of it he would have been fine.but somehow it became Sony's fault.

Last edited by mjk45 - on 11 April 2018

Cobretti2 said:
Kerotan said:
They shouldn't bite the hand that's fed them for so long. Apology accepted, but they shouldn't let this happen again.

Apology accepted? who are you?

King Kerotan, forgiver of all sins.