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Should we become gods?

Yes. 12 48.00%
 
No. 7 28.00%
 
Indifferent or unsure. 6 24.00%
 
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deskpro2k3 said:

pretty sure ancient civilizations from all the way back in 4000BC would think of us as gods, and people from 100 years ago would think of us as wizards.

We’re less advanced today, in many areas, than people 100 years ago expected we would be. This time period would be in the middle of the FW Mader era and post-HG Wells. Aldous Huxley and isaac Asimov are just around the corner. So I wouldn’t go so far as to assume they would think we’re magical rather than more technologically advanced.

4000 year old civilizations, I would say it depends who you talk to. While less advanced, the average intelligence potential was slightly higher among our ancestors. Also, in 4000 BC, we wouldn’t look like they would have expected gods to look, we would look like people who have trouble speaking; the more human resembling gods came a little bit later in history (and even then, most of the intellectual community among Greeks and Middle Easterners acknowledged that gods were only depicted as anthropomorphic for convenience sake (Xenophanes, writing in the 5th and 6th century BC, has a good writeup on how men depict gods in their own physical image for convenience, and that the true image of gods doesn’t resemble people)  - in addition, our technology still looks like gadgets rather than the sorts of control that they believed gods had. For the lower intelligence people, you can convince people today that you’re a messiah or a god, and Pharaoh’s did it in ancient Egypt, so it’s possible - but depends on the culture, and it also depends how you slot yourself into it; the Pharaoh’s most certainly would have acted the part significantly better than any of us would be capable of.

I think it would be WAY more difficult than you think to convince even 6000 year old primitives that you’re a god: as some evidence, we have come in contact with tribes recently who were even more primitive than 6000 year old settled areas, and even they didn’t think we were gods - although there is an island where they decided that Prince Philip was a god; but that has mostly to do with the fact that they recognized as the Patriarch the British people, even though he is technically of lower rank than Queen Elizabeth II. I think it’s more likely that they would see us as human.



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COKTOE said:
John2290 said:

But whyyyyyyyyyy?

We could marry our cousins.

Come to europe, we can marry our cousins (if we want to).

Wait, does that mean we europeans are already god?



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Isn't humanity the closest thing to a god, this planet has ever seen. We are literally the beings who can decide which species or goes extinct. Humanity as a collective can put nations or cities to ashes with a single weapon, hell we can blow up the etire earth. Although looking to it from that angle humanity is more like Satan's incarnation and image than that of god. We kill, polute, potion, waste, and destroy every ecisystem on the planet for our own advancement. So no we simply can't be (the Christoan version of god), but humanity can become Satan for every being on earth.

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We'll by my definition you cannot become the God. You have to be eternal that is ever existing have no beginning or end for one. Then you have to be all powerful that means you don't need food to survive sleep to sustain yourselves etc. Then you need to be above nature that is stand alone have no fathers mother's or children also you have to have the power of willing things into existence that is say Be and it is. You have to be omnipotent omniscience all seeing all hearing. A lot of other criteria's but just the first one alone disqualifies you let alone that you have to live outside nature space and time and all physical limitations and boundaries so you can never even hope to become God



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Ok, first, we created God. Someone wrote a story book and people started taking it as fact to wash away the fear of death. No one can become omnipotent gods, that is a nonsensical imaginary construct. You can become creators though, just like we are creators of the concept of God.

Second, that kind of tech is the realm of sci-fi. What is your consciousnesses? This is likely a group of cells. How can you transfer a group of cells into a computer? You can't. You could at best make a copy of the information on them, IF you learned how to read it.

There's the brain in a fluid can theories. If the cells of the brain can be kept alive and regrowing, then, yes, you could live a long time in your conscious. I can't imagine that being a great experience though.

If we discover what makes us conscious, should we replicate it in machines? No, that's a very bad idea for safety reasons..

Can we (human race) control genetics? At some point we might be able to, yes.

 

So, yeah, we are and can continue to be creators. We can't be some nonsense we made up though.

 

edit: typos!

Last edited by Nem - on 29 March 2018

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John2290 said:
Nem said:

Ok, first, we created God. Someone wrote a story book and people started taking it as fact to wash away the fear of death. No, one can become omnipotent gods, that is a nonsensical imaginary construct. You can become creators though, just like we are creators of the concept of God.

Second, that kind of tech is the realm of sci-fi. What is your counciousness? This is likely a group of cells. How can you transfer a group of cells into a computer? You can't. You could at best make a copy of the information on them, IF you learned how to read it.

Theres the brain in a fluid can theories. If the cells of the brain can be kept alive and regrowing, then, yes, you could live a long time in your councious. I can't imagine that being a great experience though.

If we discover what makes us councious, should we replicate it in machines? No, thats a very bad idea for safety reasons..

Can we (human race) control genetics? At some point we might be able to, yes.

 

So, yeah, we are and can continue to be creators. We can't be some nonsense we made up though.

You don't nor can you know or prove that.

I also don't know if the flying spaguetti monster is not real nor can prove that.

Anything you can imagine can be real.

So, you gonna have to tell us how you gonna go around proving something IS real.



Nem said:

Ok, first, we created God. Someone wrote a story book and people started taking it as fact to wash away the fear of death. No, one can become omnipotent gods, that is a nonsensical imaginary construct. You can become creators though, just like we are creators of the concept of God.

Second, that kind of tech is the realm of sci-fi. What is your counciousness? This is likely a group of cells. How can you transfer a group of cells into a computer? You can't. You could at best make a copy of the information on them, IF you learned how to read it.

Theres the brain in a fluid can theories. If the cells of the brain can be kept alive and regrowing, then, yes, you could live a long time in your councious. I can't imagine that being a great experience though.

If we discover what makes us councious, should we replicate it in machines? No, thats a very bad idea for safety reasons..

Can we (human race) control genetics? At some point we might be able to, yes.

 

So, yeah, we are and can continue to be creators. We can't be some nonsense we made up though.

There is no reason why a human mind cannot be copied perfectly and with identical thought processes made artificial. It may require very sophisticated technology 100s of years in the future but as a existing physical operating device the brain can be copied. I think a long time before that we would have cured cell ageing and other issues though. Much easier to repair a working device than reinvent it as something different. Making the brain immune from deterioration is much easier.

We may get upgrades in the future, a math's unit, all the known knowledge of the universe etc, we won't have to type into google we simply want the information and have it instantly.  We may find our own personality is such a small part of the brain, the quirky way we think and approach problems and that is the only bit we need to replicate. How we process light, feel, balance etc these are generic processing anyway. Our own personal memories and logic are only a part of the brain that needs to be replicated.  



i say people should do whatever they’re capable of if they want to do it. might as well see what happens. worst comes to worst (or best), i doubt much would change in the universe.



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