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vivster said:
DonFerrari said:

Our very poor and easily to anger  mods got rid of him =p (joking)

At least someone got it.

You were quite straight on the joke =]

The_Yoda said:
Does the $349 bundle have the newest version of the headset and is anyone interested in buying an extra camera if I bite on this deal?

From what I know we got at least Skyrim and Doom bundles with the new headset... but those start at 300 or 350.



duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994

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So now it's only $199.99+the price of the console+the price of the shit you STILL need to buy to make it work? And you people wonder why it always conjures up imagines of the Genesis+Sega CD+32X fuckfest of my youth. lol



AlfredoTurkey said:
So now it's only $199.99+the price of the console+the price of the shit you STILL need to buy to make it work? And you people wonder why it always conjures up imagines of the Genesis+Sega CD+32X fuckfest of my youth. lol

Have 32X sold 2M and about 10M games for it?



duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994

AlfredoTurkey said:
So now it's only $199.99+the price of the console+the price of the shit you STILL need to buy to make it work? And you people wonder why it always conjures up imagines of the Genesis+Sega CD+32X fuckfest of my youth. lol

Repeating this ridiculous comparison doesn’t make it more valid Alfi. How did your 32X (sorry for you buying one lol) revolutionise the way you played your games again?!



Errorist76 said:
AlfredoTurkey said:
So now it's only $199.99+the price of the console+the price of the shit you STILL need to buy to make it work? And you people wonder why it always conjures up imagines of the Genesis+Sega CD+32X fuckfest of my youth. lol

Repeating this ridiculous comparison doesn’t make it more valid Alfi. How did your 32X (sorry for you buying one lol) revolutionise the way you played your games again?!

The question is how did the PSVR do that? I don't really see a lot of revolutioning these days. Or does this revolution only apply to a tiny minority?



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vivster said:
Errorist76 said:

Repeating this ridiculous comparison doesn’t make it more valid Alfi. How did your 32X (sorry for you buying one lol) revolutionise the way you played your games again?!

The question is how did the PSVR do that? I don't really see a lot of revolutioning these days. Or does this revolution only apply to a tiny minority?

It only applies to those who own one/can afford one of course.You’d understand if you had one.

That‘s exactly the thing...gaming started to bore me after 35 years. Just more of the same with very few exceptions. Not anymore...wasn’t this excited for gaming since the PS1 times. No new medium like a CD/DVD/BluRay ever did this.



Errorist76 said:
vivster said:

The question is how did the PSVR do that? I don't really see a lot of revolutioning these days. Or does this revolution only apply to a tiny minority?

It only applies to those who own one/can afford one of course.You’d understand if you had one.

That‘s exactly the thing...gaming started to bore me after 35 years. Just more of the same with very few exceptions. Not anymore...wasn’t this excited for gaming since the PS1 times. No new medium like a CD/DVD/BluRay ever did this.

So it's only a revolution for you and a very select group of people. That sounds like the lamest revolution in the history of revolutions.

BTW I have tried and own VR stuff. I'm waiting for the first proper HMDs and games to arrive before I jump in again.



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vivster said:
Errorist76 said:

Repeating this ridiculous comparison doesn’t make it more valid Alfi. How did your 32X (sorry for you buying one lol) revolutionise the way you played your games again?!

The question is how did the PSVR do that? I don't really see a lot of revolutioning these days. Or does this revolution only apply to a tiny minority?

I wouldn't say it's a tiny minority, there are experiences that are totally different than what we had before. But from what I can see from previous post on the subject they don't attract you so for you it isn't revolutionary or even much different, that is fair, it is your POV and experience so it's valid for you. But it doesn't compare to 32x or CD since that was just a medium change (although sure the system as a whole having it on PS1 helped pushing boundaries like story telling and FMV).



duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994

DonFerrari said:
vivster said:

The question is how did the PSVR do that? I don't really see a lot of revolutioning these days. Or does this revolution only apply to a tiny minority?

I wouldn't say it's a tiny minority, there are experiences that are totally different than what we had before. But from what I can see from previous post on the subject they don't attract you so for you it isn't revolutionary or even much different, that is fair, it is your POV and experience so it's valid for you. But it doesn't compare to 32x or CD since that was just a medium change (although sure the system as a whole having it on PS1 helped pushing boundaries like story telling and FMV).

A revolution is by definition something that replaces an existing institution and that affects everyone within a certain jurisdiction. It should also be quite a swift change, but let's not get technical here.

VR is neither replacing traditional gaming nor does it affect the majority of gamers, let alone everyone. So throwing hyperbole like this into the room does not help your point. Just because something is perceived inherently better by a select group of people doesn't make it a revolution. Betamax was perceived as inherently better than VHS by a select group of people and it didn't do shit and then died out. I'm not saying VR will die out, just trying to give some perspective.

VR still has to grow and will from now on always be a part beside traditional gaming but it won't replace it for a long long time. It might even never become mainstream, meaning the majority of gamers adopting it.

VR itself still has to evolve to become more appealing. The product it is right now is justifiably not the solution the majority of gamers accept. As shown by underwhelming sales.



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vivster said:
DonFerrari said:

I wouldn't say it's a tiny minority, there are experiences that are totally different than what we had before. But from what I can see from previous post on the subject they don't attract you so for you it isn't revolutionary or even much different, that is fair, it is your POV and experience so it's valid for you. But it doesn't compare to 32x or CD since that was just a medium change (although sure the system as a whole having it on PS1 helped pushing boundaries like story telling and FMV).

A revolution is by definition something that replaces an existing institution and that affects everyone within a certain jurisdiction. It should also be quite a swift change, but let's not get technical here.

VR is neither replacing traditional gaming nor does it affect the majority of gamers, let alone everyone. So throwing hyperbole like this into the room does not help your point. Just because something is perceived inherently better by a select group of people doesn't make it a revolution. Betamax was perceived as inherently better than VHS by a select group of people and it didn't do shit and then died out. I'm not saying VR will die out, just trying to give some perspective.

VR still has to grow and will from now on always be a part beside traditional gaming but it won't replace it for a long long time. It might even never become mainstream, meaning the majority of gamers adopting it.

VR itself still has to evolve to become more appealing. The product it is right now is justifiably not the solution the majority of gamers accept. As shown by underwhelming sales.

I agree with your general point.

But Betamax didn't come to substitute VHS, both competeted to stablish itself like BD and HD-DVD.

Also PSVR sales are very well and over projection, Oculus and the like are underwhelming ok, but some other VR products like the cardboard are doing well.

Still, you are right, for most people it still isn't (and may never be) and attractive proposition.



duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994