Forums - Gaming Discussion - EA stocks are on the rise again, did all the outrage actually matter?

Teeqoz said:
numberwang said:

'on the rise again'

I don't see how this negates my point - the stock has performed very well, both since the presidential election (the period you mention) and with a longer time perspective like 5 years, in which it is up over 600%...

But if by dissapointing you mean "unable to continually provide the continued compound annual growth rate of 95% that in demonstrated in the first half of 2017", then yes, it's pretty dissapointing.

How did it develop since the release of SWBF2?



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Kerotan said:
In its present form battlefront 2 is an absolutely epic game. Both online and offline

It's true, they have improved it alot since launch. Just got a new patch today that added some new content to the multiplayer (Iden's Tie Fighter and a night variant of Mos Eisley) as well as some much needed balance changes. And it's only going to get better with time. EA has committed 120 DICE devs and an unknown number of Criterion devs to updating and releasing DLC for the game over the next year and even into next year (DLC is supposed to continue into early 2019). And the best part, all of those updates and DLC will be free.

There are already hints from DICE and Criterion about adding fan requested features such as more offline modes including Space Battles and Heroes vs Villains, as well as Galactic Conquest from the original 2005 Battlefront 2; vehicles, heroes, and maps from episode 2, episode 3, The Clone Wars, and Rogue One, as well as the missing Bespin map from episode 5; character customization, starting with customizable Clone Troopers and eventually customizable Rebels as well; more weapons including those from the first game that are missing; a redesign of the ranking and progression system; skins for heroes and villains; and more. Battlefront 2 will be truly great after all of the DLC and updates imo, but even in it's current state I still enjoy it quite alot. 

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Train wreck said:

With switch owners buying watered down ports (due to the bad taste the Wii U left and having ammo for list wars) it means that the likes of EA can make games for it on the cheap to fund their projects for PS4/Xbox1 and PC so they have a crutch on revenue from the new system and have growth on their new AAA projects. win/win

Does this have to do anything with the stocks? No, it does not.

You just needed to find a way to make the worst post in the thread again.



numberwang said:
Teeqoz said:

I don't see how this negates my point - the stock has performed very well, both since the presidential election (the period you mention) and with a longer time perspective like 5 years, in which it is up over 600%...

But if by dissapointing you mean "unable to continually provide the continued compound annual growth rate of 95% that in demonstrated in the first half of 2017", then yes, it's pretty dissapointing.

How did it develop since the release of SWBF2?

While that was not the period you mentioned in your original post (and not the period I was talking about either), and I think a two month period is way to short to draw any meaningful conclusion from, it's up 4% since BF2's release, vs 7.1% for Nasdaq and 8.2% for the S&P 500 in the same period.



Yes, it mattered. Did you think the point was to bankrupt EA?

The point was to push back and regulate lootbox gambling practices. The regulation isn't in, but there has definitly been pushback and i doubt anyone can just bring them in again without backlash.



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It's adorable to think that the public outrage at one of their games, would somehow completely cripple the company and put them out of business. It was never going to happen. EA are too big to collapse in a single day/week/month.



                                       

morenoingrato said:
Train wreck said:

With switch owners buying watered down ports (due to the bad taste the Wii U left and having ammo for list wars) it means that the likes of EA can make games for it on the cheap to fund their projects for PS4/Xbox1 and PC so they have a crutch on revenue from the new system and have growth on their new AAA projects. win/win

Does this have to do anything with the stocks? No, it does not.

You just needed to find a way to make the worst post in the thread again.

My post addressed a potential reason why EA's stock is back on the rise, yours added nothing...maybe its your post that is the worst?  I mean if you want me to spell it out for you...

FIFA 18 is far exceeding what was sold on the Wii U so that means that EA has reason to put it on the Switch.  The extra sales means extra revenue they did not received back in gen 8 with either the Nintendo 3DS or Wii U.  The game is a watered down version compared to those released on other systems.  It being custom means that the budget for the game will be lower than that of its competitors.  Lower budget with higher sales = sales expansion = higher stock price.  Wii U only had the first year of 3rd party support which was immediately cut afterwards (hence the Wii U bad taste) and the list wars on this site in particular for current/upcoming switch games often feature games like FIFA 18, DOOM and LA Noire to name a few.  Hopefully this will make it so that you can contribute more instead of trying to troll comments that you happen not to like.   

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It hurt them but a long as Fifa does what it does every year they are unkillable.

Disney got pissed, it hurt their rep with them and sales underwhelmed and they did shut of the loot boxes costing them big on the game.



EA's stocks were always going to rebound so long as they hold on to those licenses and monopolies, but it had an undeniable impact on sales that will likely have them changing their approach going forward. This was never going to be abandoned completely from one major incident, but you can be sure people will be watching hawkishly going forward.

These things don't change overnight, but as we've shown with DRM's and one-time codes for online access, continued bitching can end the worst practices. Frankly, the rejection was a happy surprise to me as I'd seen such nonsense leaking into games for a while now, and the situation calls more for guarded optimism than pessimism in my opinion as far as lootboxes and pay-to-win infiltrating the industry is concerned.

EA, though, will continue sucking, and just as LJN did long ago by pouncing on every movie-exclusive-license for their garbage games, EA will continue on by virtue of those exclusive licenses (NFL, FIFA, Star Wars) that are guaranteed to generate sales regardless of quality.



these things don't correlates as you say... I'm trading stocks for a living and if it was this simple, i would be rich by now... The drop was triggered by the back lash but the market has so many things going that that fact can't hold the price down for long, it would have to be more serious, and it could turn out to be serious but we will only know after the quarterly report. See the Volkswagen Dieselgate, that was a much bigger issue and the stock recovered fully already or the more recent Intel meltdown security bug, the drop was "light" and I see the recover happening within a month without them to provide a new immune product to the market...

Internally EA could already changing their ways and changing their future games or not, we not knowing it's just "Business as usual".



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