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Machina said:
VGPolyglot said:
How many games have they given 10/10 this year?

This is key, tells you whether they're just generally generous scorers or whether they think the game is truly exceptional. 

Doesn't look like anyone answered the question in the thread, so I went and found out for myself:

2017:
Total reviews - 286 (a substantial minority are for small retro digital titles though)
10/10s - 8 (Zelda Switch, Zelda WiiU, MK8 Deluxe, Splatoon 2, Metroid: Samus Returns, Axiom Verge, Super Mario Odyssey, Pokemon Ultra)
9/10s - 44

Wow, they're not even trying.



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burninmylight said:
RJTM1991 said:

Hmm, care to list just a couple? 'cause all I'm seeing is 100/100 scores.

Just about every mainline Nintendo game this year alone has received top marks. I mean, shit, even ARMS got a 9/10.

Mario Tennis: Ultra Smash: http://www.nintendolife.com/games/wiiu/mario_tennis_ultra_smash/reviews

Animal Crossing: Amiibo Festival: http://www.nintendolife.com/games/wiiu/animal_crossing_amiibo_festival/reviews

Metroid Prime: Blast Ball: http://www.nintendolife.com/reviews/3ds/metroid_prime_blast_ball

Hey! Pikmin: http://www.nintendolife.com/reviews/3ds/hey_pikmin

Mario Sports Superstars: http://www.nintendolife.com/reviews/3ds/mario_sports_superstars

Mario & Sonic at the 2016 Rio Olympic Games: http://www.nintendolife.com/games/3ds/mario_and_sonic_at_the_rio_2016_olympic_games

Is there the slightest possibility that the reviewer honestly thought ARMS is a 9/10 game?

They aren't mainline games though, they're spinoffs, and terrible ones at that. There's a big difference between a game like Ultra Sun and Amiibo Festival.

Fact is, when it comes down to it, every big Nintendo release gets top marks from Nintendo Life, and it's mainly due to bias.



I don't see what's so bad about Nintendo Life.

For 2,700 reviews, this publication has graded:

47% higher than the average critic
24% same as the average critic
29% lower than the average critic

On average, this publication grades 11.4 points lower than other critics. (0-100 point scale)
Average Game review score: 63



RJTM1991 said:
burninmylight said:

Mario Tennis: Ultra Smash: http://www.nintendolife.com/games/wiiu/mario_tennis_ultra_smash/reviews

Animal Crossing: Amiibo Festival: http://www.nintendolife.com/games/wiiu/animal_crossing_amiibo_festival/reviews

Metroid Prime: Blast Ball: http://www.nintendolife.com/reviews/3ds/metroid_prime_blast_ball

Hey! Pikmin: http://www.nintendolife.com/reviews/3ds/hey_pikmin

Mario Sports Superstars: http://www.nintendolife.com/reviews/3ds/mario_sports_superstars

Mario & Sonic at the 2016 Rio Olympic Games: http://www.nintendolife.com/games/3ds/mario_and_sonic_at_the_rio_2016_olympic_games

Is there the slightest possibility that the reviewer honestly thought ARMS is a 9/10 game?

They aren't mainline games though, they're spinoffs, and terrible ones at that. There's a big difference between a game like Ultra Sun and Amiibo Festival.

Fact is, when it comes down to it, every big Nintendo release gets top marks from Nintendo Life, and it's mainly due to bias.

This is pure spin at its finest. You're essentially saying Nintendo sends games that aren't "mainline" out to die as shovelware and it doesn't care about the quality, time and budget of these games and the reputation of having its name attached to them.

So basically, what you're saying is that... for tentpole, flagship games, Nintendo goes ball to the wall and makes sure to deliver a masterpiece that consumers and reviewers are sure to love... nah, that's just crazy talk. Nintendo publishes piles of shit and pays off unofficial sites with "Nintendo" in the name for great review scores, because that's a much better idea than putting out great games that can speak for themselves.

By your logic, MK8D, Mario + Rabbids and Ultra Sun and Moon should be considered spinoff games as well. So in actuality, the only games that NintendoLife have awarded perfect scores are Breath of the Wild, Splatoon 2, Samus Returns, Odyssey and Axiom Verge, the last of which is a third party game. Keeping in mind that a perfect score does not suggest that the reviewer is at all saying the game is perfect; that is a killer lineup of games that you'd be hard pressed to find five equivalents on another console released in the same period.

Oh, and I just took a look at your profile. This is all about bias, right? Well let's see:

Currently playing: Yakuza 2 (PS2) as of Oct. 24, 2017

Favorite games: 11 PS3 games

I get the sneaking suspicion that you haven't played a single one of the games awarded 10/10 by NL. Sorry RJTM1991, but I really don't think you have a right to call someone out on bias.



Nintendo Life is NINTENDO. 

Or it seems like that, based on their ratings.



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burninmylight said:
RJTM1991 said:

They aren't mainline games though, they're spinoffs, and terrible ones at that. There's a big difference between a game like Ultra Sun and Amiibo Festival.

Fact is, when it comes down to it, every big Nintendo release gets top marks from Nintendo Life, and it's mainly due to bias.

This is pure spin at its finest. You're essentially saying Nintendo sends games that aren't "mainline" out to die as shovelware and it doesn't care about the quality, time and budget of these games and the reputation of having its name attached to them.

So basically, what you're saying is that... for tentpole, flagship games, Nintendo goes ball to the wall and makes sure to deliver a masterpiece that consumers and reviewers are sure to love... nah, that's just crazy talk. Nintendo publishes piles of shit and pays off unofficial sites with "Nintendo" in the name for great review scores, because that's a much better idea than putting out great games that can speak for themselves.

By your logic, MK8D, Mario + Rabbids and Ultra Sun and Moon should be considered spinoff games as well. So in actuality, the only games that NintendoLife have awarded perfect scores are Breath of the Wild, Splatoon 2, Samus Returns, Odyssey and Axiom Verge, the last of which is a third party game. Keeping in mind that a perfect score does not suggest that the reviewer is at all saying the game is perfect; that is a killer lineup of games that you'd be hard pressed to find five equivalents on another console released in the same period.

Oh, and I just took a look at your profile. This is all about bias, right? Well let's see:

Currently playing: Yakuza 2 (PS2) as of Oct. 24, 2017

Favorite games: 11 PS3 games

I get the sneaking suspicion that you haven't played a single one of the games awarded 10/10 by NL. Sorry RJTM1991, but I really don't think you have a right to call someone out on bias.

'Cause the guy with the Paper Mario avatar and page full of Wii games totally isn't biased, right?

I agreed with another user earlier that reviews from Playstation and Xbox sites shouldn't be counted either, so I'm certainly not biased, I'm just not a fan of fansites that do nothing but pad review scores.

Also, I can't have an opinion on Nintendo games because I have a Playstation? That's just stupid.

And yes, again, mainline Nintendo games are different than spinoffs. For example, you can't compare Animal Crossing: New Leaf to Amiibo Festival, or Mario Strikers to Odyssey. No need to turn this into something that it isn't.

Last edited by RJTM1991 - on 19 November 2017

I'd be surprised if they did that and were called Microsoft Life.



RJTM1991 said:
burninmylight said:

This is pure spin at its finest. You're essentially saying Nintendo sends games that aren't "mainline" out to die as shovelware and it doesn't care about the quality, time and budget of these games and the reputation of having its name attached to them.

So basically, what you're saying is that... for tentpole, flagship games, Nintendo goes ball to the wall and makes sure to deliver a masterpiece that consumers and reviewers are sure to love... nah, that's just crazy talk. Nintendo publishes piles of shit and pays off unofficial sites with "Nintendo" in the name for great review scores, because that's a much better idea than putting out great games that can speak for themselves.

By your logic, MK8D, Mario + Rabbids and Ultra Sun and Moon should be considered spinoff games as well. So in actuality, the only games that NintendoLife have awarded perfect scores are Breath of the Wild, Splatoon 2, Samus Returns, Odyssey and Axiom Verge, the last of which is a third party game. Keeping in mind that a perfect score does not suggest that the reviewer is at all saying the game is perfect; that is a killer lineup of games that you'd be hard pressed to find five equivalents on another console released in the same period.

Oh, and I just took a look at your profile. This is all about bias, right? Well let's see:

Currently playing: Yakuza 2 (PS2) as of Oct. 24, 2017

Favorite games: 11 PS3 games

I get the sneaking suspicion that you haven't played a single one of the games awarded 10/10 by NL. Sorry RJTM1991, but I really don't think you have a right to call someone out on bias.

'Cause the guy with the Paper Mario avatar and page full of Wii games totally isn't biased, right?

I agreed with another user earlier that reviews from Playstation and Xbox sites shouldn't be counted either, so I'm certainly not biased, I'm just not a fan of fansites that do nothing but pad review scores.

Also, I can't have an opinion on Nintendo games because I have a Playstation? That's just stupid.

And yes, again, mainline Nintendo games are different than spinoffs. For example, you can't compare Animal Crossing: New Leaf to Amiibo Festival, or Mario Strikers to Odyssey. No need to turn this into something that it isn't.

When the guy with the Paper Mario avatar and page full of Wii games showed you proof of how the site in question is unbiased in its reviews, he sounds a lot less biased than the guy who reads one article headline and comes up with a half-assed hot take on the spot.

And you can have an opinion on games you most likely have never played all you want. Your opinions become worthless when you haven't played said games though.

It doesn't matter if mainline games are different from spinoffs. Nintendo still publishes them, advertises them, tries to sell them and wants them to review well. What's just stupid is your suggestion that they are somehow irrelevant.

Also, the same people that run NintendoLife run this site:

http://www.pushsquare.com/

With some of the same staff members from NL. Does this mean we shouldn't trust them for game reviews on Nintendo OR Sony consoles? They must be raking in hella cash from all that moneyhatting.



Yeah, there's no way a game should get a perfect score when it's basically just a port with some added stuff. No matter how good a game is, if it launches twice, it should be docked due to lack of innovation.



Been playing it 15hrs so far.

The story is weaker due to some of the added content and story that came with the content. And the RotoDex has somehow managed to be made more annoying than Sun/Moon. But other than that the game is much better.

And for those saying the same is the exact same, they're full of shit. It is not the same whatsoever. That being said it is still very familiar. And things run a lot quicker since things have been streamlined -but like I said before, the streamlining definitely makes the story weaker