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RenCutypoison said:
KBG29 said:
We are at the tipping point. Hopefully we can get a Digital Only console soon. This also opens up the possibility of mobile form factors. If next gen is 3 years away, I wounder how comfortable Sony, Microsoft, and Nintendo will be? If we can reach 70% digital on big titles in developed nations by 2020, things could get very interesting.

Digital only consoles might be a bad bet even for next gen consoles, as digital only still has bad press.

However, we could start seeing digital only, cheaper models this gen. A 200$ digital only ultra-slim PS4 and 250-300$ PS4 ProSlim for holyday 2018 could definitely happen.

I would love to see that. I have only used the disk drive in my PS4's to see if they work. I am all digital on every medium. A cheaper, slimmer, quiter digital only PS4 Pro would be an great reason to retire the day one edition to the bedroom.

There is definitly a risk in even releasing both a digital only and physical media based console next gen. The safest bet is to stick with a physical device at launch. Even if physical is only 20 - 30% of game sales, those will most likely be sales to the core gamers, and they can tear a company down if they don't get what they want. See PS3, PS Vita, and XBO for examples.



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RenCutypoison said:
KBG29 said:
We are at the tipping point. Hopefully we can get a Digital Only console soon. This also opens up the possibility of mobile form factors. If next gen is 3 years away, I wounder how comfortable Sony, Microsoft, and Nintendo will be? If we can reach 70% digital on big titles in developed nations by 2020, things could get very interesting.

Digital only consoles might be a bad bet even for next gen consoles, as digital only still has bad press.

However, we could start seeing digital only, cheaper models this gen. A 200$ digital only ultra-slim PS4 and 250-300$ PS4 ProSlim for holyday 2018 could definitely happen.

That's exactly what I want... the correct way to make this transition is not to go all in 1 way or the other. Provide 2 different SKUs. 1 ready for physical media, 1 for digital only. Either for a lower price, or just with bigger disk space (maybe SSD) at the same price.

I've gone 100% digital this gen and I'm not going back, so the bluray drive for me is just a paperweight.



This series won't stop selling... we thought it was already on decline, but it keep getting back... well, good for the people that like it.



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KBG29 said:
RenCutypoison said:

Digital only consoles might be a bad bet even for next gen consoles, as digital only still has bad press.

However, we could start seeing digital only, cheaper models this gen. A 200$ digital only ultra-slim PS4 and 250-300$ PS4 ProSlim for holyday 2018 could definitely happen.

I would love to see that. I have only used the disk drive in my PS4's to see if they work. I am all digital on every medium. A cheaper, slimmer, quiter digital only PS4 Pro would be an great reason to retire the day one edition to the bedroom.

There is definitly a risk in even releasing both a digital only and physical media based console next gen. The safest bet is to stick with a physical device at launch. Even if physical is only 20 - 30% of game sales, those will most likely be sales to the core gamers, and they can tear a company down if they don't get what they want. See PS3, PS Vita, and XBO for examples.

Agreed. And I do love my physical games every once in a while, even if it's only about 20% of my collection. As Setsuna puts it, dual SKUs solution are a way safer bet.

setsunatenshi said:
RenCutypoison said:

Digital only consoles might be a bad bet even for next gen consoles, as digital only still has bad press.

However, we could start seeing digital only, cheaper models this gen. A 200$ digital only ultra-slim PS4 and 250-300$ PS4 ProSlim for holyday 2018 could definitely happen.

That's exactly what I want... the correct way to make this transition is not to go all in 1 way or the other. Provide 2 different SKUs. 1 ready for physical media, 1 for digital only. Either for a lower price, or just with bigger disk space (maybe SSD) at the same price.

I've gone 100% digital this gen and I'm not going back, so the bluray drive for me is just a paperweight.

The dual SKU solution seems to be the best indeed. However, releasing a digital only console with a SSD would be lethal, I mean I don't even play that much anymore (job + night classes hell) and my PS4 1TB HDD is still always full.



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RenCutypoison said:
KBG29 said:

I would love to see that. I have only used the disk drive in my PS4's to see if they work. I am all digital on every medium. A cheaper, slimmer, quiter digital only PS4 Pro would be an great reason to retire the day one edition to the bedroom.

There is definitly a risk in even releasing both a digital only and physical media based console next gen. The safest bet is to stick with a physical device at launch. Even if physical is only 20 - 30% of game sales, those will most likely be sales to the core gamers, and they can tear a company down if they don't get what they want. See PS3, PS Vita, and XBO for examples.

Agreed. And I do love my physical games every once in a while, even if it's only about 20% of my collection. As Setsuna puts it, dual SKUs solution are a way safer bet.

setsunatenshi said:

That's exactly what I want... the correct way to make this transition is not to go all in 1 way or the other. Provide 2 different SKUs. 1 ready for physical media, 1 for digital only. Either for a lower price, or just with bigger disk space (maybe SSD) at the same price.

I've gone 100% digital this gen and I'm not going back, so the bluray drive for me is just a paperweight.

The dual SKU solution seems to be the best indeed. However, releasing a digital only console with a SSD would be lethal, I mean I don't even play that much anymore (job + night classes hell) and my PS4 1TB HDD is still always full.

True, but even if the SDD was only for the OS and a few crucial apps, that would help already. Also, looking at the future PS5, prices of storage will keep coming down (though as we've seen on the X1X the storage needed for games will definitely go up to offset), so we need to find a happy medium here.

Nothing wrong with opening the system to external storage and a fast connection for data transfer :)

Main point... ditch the optical drive for people like me :)



KBG29 said:
We are at the tipping point. Hopefully we can get a Digital Only console soon. This also opens up the possibility of mobile form factors. If next gen is 3 years away, I wounder how comfortable Sony, Microsoft, and Nintendo will be? If we can reach 70% digital on big titles in developed nations by 2020, things could get very interesting.

But what of price? At a bare minimum the price should be same BUT minus manufacturing cost and in store cut. So new title at £34.99 is good for digital



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Skeeuk said:
KBG29 said:
We are at the tipping point. Hopefully we can get a Digital Only console soon. This also opens up the possibility of mobile form factors. If next gen is 3 years away, I wounder how comfortable Sony, Microsoft, and Nintendo will be? If we can reach 70% digital on big titles in developed nations by 2020, things could get very interesting.

But what of price? At a bare minimum the price should be same BUT minus manufacturing cost and in store cut. So new title at £34.99 is good for digital

I have no issue with the price for a few reasons. 

1. Any game I buy day 1, I am picking up the most complete edition of, because I want to support the game as much as I can. So price on my favorite titles is not an issue. 

2. The ability to access my entire library from my Vita over remote play is a massive value added over physical.

3. Games are my first love, and Sony, Nintendo, and Microsoft deliver the kind of expereinces I live for. So I have no issue with them taking a bigger cut of the pie. 

4. On games I have a slight interest in, but not enough for a day one purchase. Prices come down rapidly (at least on PSN). I have picked up dozens of titles between $2.50 - $9.99 within the first year of release. 



Stop hate, let others live the life they were given. Everyone has their problems, and no one should have to feel ashamed for the way they were born. Be proud of who you are, encourage others to be proud of themselves. Learn, research, absorb everything around you. Nothing is meaningless, a purpose is placed on everything no matter how you perceive it. Discover how to love, and share that love with everything that you encounter. Help make existence a beautiful thing.

Kevyn B Grams
10/03/2010 

KBG29 on PSN&XBL

What if those kind of sales could go to games like Nioh?
We would live in a good world...



so Destiny 2 sold over 50 percent digital..... that is nuts.... and with COD doing the same, this shows you digital gaming has taken off..... retail is going to fall hard these next couple years.....



 

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