sc94597 said:
The overwhelming majority of independence movements in history were "illegal" according to the standards of the states they were separating from. That does not make them anti-democratic. That the central authority doesn't give permission in the first place, is inherently anti-democratic itself. All people have the rights to self-determination and freedom of association. If Spain worked with Catalonians to make their referendum legal in the first place, I suspect the vote for independence might not have won.. Not because how it was done deprived people of a vote, but because the tactics used by Spain convinced people on the fence to vote for independence. It wasn't like Madrid didn't know this was happening for many months In a real democracy the people don't need to beg their rulers to vote, they just do it. |
Is compeltely antidemocratic when a group of politic parties that represent less than half of the catalan population decides to declare independence going not only above the spanish laws, but also above their own catalan laws (again, Catalonia is one of the most self-governed regions of Europe, yet they went against their own laws)
This is completely antidemocratic no matter what perspective you choose, you want to think catalonia is the good guy here because that sounds cute, the little guy gaining independence from the oppressive kingdom, in reality this is a minority making something similar to a coup d´etat for hugely egotistical reasons.
