Catalonia declares independence. Puigdemont free to roam Belgium.

[Tryklon]

Goodnightmoon said:

Tryklon said:

The right to self determination is one of the pillars of the Universal Declarion for the Human Rights...

As a Portuguese, I fully support Catalonia, in fact, we fought for the same and on the 1st of December of 1640 we achieved it!!!
Was it legal? You can bet the hell it wasnt :D

Spain is not a country, is an amalgamation of unified kingdoms, most of them against the peoples will...

Not to mention monarchy, I mean, really? In 2017 a little girl with 6 or 7 years old is already decided to be the chief of state when she grows up? Thats ridiculous and an insult to the people! This is not the middle ages...

Down with inherited rights! Long live the conquered rights! Long live the Republic and the Democracy!

Self determination by a majority, there is no proof independentists are a majority on Catalonia, right now catalonia is a country where probably most people want to stay with Spain and where independentists had been promised to become way richer now when that's a huge lie since they have to leave the EU and most of its exportations go to Spain, a thousand companies have been abandoning Catalonia this weeks. There hasn't been any democratic process to claim self determination, there hasn't been campaign for the YES and for the NO, only for the YES, pure manipulation.

Oh, and there is also Monarchy in many more countries like UK, Netherlands or Denmark, some of the most developed countries in the world, so what's your point?

That paternalistic cr*p is getting old. People are on the streets.

And if that shamefully corrupt government of "Spain" is so certain the majority wants to be spanish, why did they not allow a fully authorized referendum?

Oh, let me guess... because they knew the yes would win! Thats it!

Don't try to insult other peoples intelligence. If it comes to elections on the 21st of December ( I doubt they will even listen to what Spain says) we will see which parties are going to win the election!

 

And about the monarchy! yes yes, it is a shameful and ridiculous system and it goes against everything the Universal Declaration of Human Rights says.

All human beings are born free and equal in dignity and rights.

PERIOD!!!!