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Forums - Politics Discussion - Catalonia declares independence. Puigdemont free to roam Belgium.

 

Who do you support?

Spain 139 59.40%
 
Catalonia 95 40.60%
 
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fory77 on 27 October 2017

its happening

"We hereby constitute the Catalan Republic as an independent, sovereign, legal, democratic, socially-conscious state", says the Catalonia parliament declaration


Belgian judge releases president @KRLS Puigdemont and his ministers; Prosecutor: Puigdemont and his advisers has right to contact media and run political campaigns

Brussels prosecutor says ousted president of Catalonia has turned himself following Spain’s issuing of arrest warrant.;

6 Civil Guard vans take 9 former Catalan regional ministers off to jail; Spanish prosecutor seeks EU arrest warrant for sacked Catalonia leader Puigdemont; 

President of the Catalan Parliament announces the acceptance of the decision of the Spanish government to dissolve parliament

Spanish prosecutors seeking charges of rebellion, sedition and embezzlement against ousted Catalan Cabinet officials.

Pugidemont is in Brussels with 14 members of the dismissed Catalan government

Catalonia’s separatist leader calls on Catalans to peacefully oppose Spain’s formal takeover of the region’s affairs.

Rajoy dissolves the Catalan parliament, elections to be held on 21 December; Rajoy Sacks Entire Catalan Government After Declaration Of Independence

Catalonia parliament declared independence from Spain with 70 votes in favor; The Spanish Senate gives green light to the implementation of Article 155; The Spanish Parliament votes for the direct rule of Catalonia; 


Boris Johnson: "The position of the British Government has not changed. The United Kingdom supports Rajoy";

State Dept denounces Catalan independence vote: "The US supports" Madrid's "constitutional measures to keep Spain strong and united."; 

German government spokesman says Berlin "does not recognize the unilateral declaration of independence by the regional parliament."

European Commission declines comment after Catalan parliament declares independence from Spain; 

President of the European Commission Jean-Claude Juncker has warned of "more cracks" in the European Union amid Catalan independence crisis; President of the EU Parliament, Antonio Tajani: Catalan independence is a "breach of the rule of law." "No one in the EU will recognize it."

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/catalonia-independence-latest-spain-direct-rule-catalan-parliament-president-a8023221.html

Red - States not recognizing and/or rejecting the Catalan Republic

Orange - Agnostic

Green - States formally recognizing the Catalan Republic

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JEMC on 27 October 2017

Yep, and it won't last long.



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Nymeria on 27 October 2017

Do they have any powerful G-20 nations backing them? In these scenarios have to have that to gain traction.



OTBWY on 27 October 2017

Tanks, Guardia Civil already seen on their way to Catalonia. The entire Catalonian parlement is going to prison. Bye bye independence, bye bye autonomy.

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VGPolyglot on 27 October 2017

Hmm, unless this can somehow gain traction for a socialist movement in Spain, I don't really have any strong feelings either.



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fory77 on 27 October 2017
Nymeria said:
Do they have any powerful G-20 nations backing them? In these scenarios have to have that to gain traction.

Scotland and Venezuela

The west is against. we'll see what the east says.



andisart on 27 October 2017

Hypocracy of the Western corporate tyranny playing out in plain sight now. How conveniently silent the EU has been on the awful violence and the whole situation. Whereas everyone is always so ready to condemn this kind of crackdowns in other regions of the world as "antidemocratic" and is calling for freedom. It's all about the money of course, and keeping power central.



dyremose on 27 October 2017

As everything this comes down to money and not liberty or cultural independence or whatever they might try and say. Catalonia is one of the richest regions in an otherwise rather poor country of Spain. In Italy the two richest regions are also trying to gain more autonomy or break off with their own country.. Gladly leaving an entire countries economy in the shitter while laughing all the way to the bank.. I hope the Spanish government hits down hard on these destabilisers..



fory77 on 27 October 2017
Ka-pi96 said:

You mean see if there are any good guys in the east unlike the corrupt imperialist bitches of the west?

"""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""good guys in the east"""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""" nice one

All Spain had to do was make the referendum legal. But they knew the west would be with them, didn't want to risk a democratic defeat and made it illegal.

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Wyrdness on 27 October 2017

Civil War incoming.