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Ka-pi96 said:
Goodnightmoon said:

Self determination by a majority, there is no proof independentists are a majority on Catalonia, right now catalonia is a country where probably most people want to stay with Spain and where independentists had been promised to become way richer now when that's a huge lie since they have to leave the EU and most of its exportations go to Spain, a thousand companies have been abandoning Catalonia this weeks. There hasn't been any democratic process to claim self determination, there hasn't been campaign for the YES and for the NO, only for the YES, pure manipulation.

Oh, and there is also Monarchy in many more countries like UK, Netherlands or Denmark, some of the most developed countries in the world, so what's your point?

Other countries having a shitty, outdated, corrupt and elitist system doesn't make it ok. The French know what to do with monarchies though...

Yes, I don't like Monarchy either, but he is exposing that as a proof that something is wrong with Spain when 3 of the very best countries of the world have it too, it doesn't really affect the system a lot, is outdated and unfair, but is use mostly as decoration, the King has very little power.