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palou said:
StarDoor said:

The term "markets" generally refers to individual countries. VGChartz tracks the five biggest ones: USA, Japan, UK, Germany, and France. Then it also tracks the regions of North America and Europe, which are combinations of markets.

Considering the strong economic ties, common currecy, free trade, open borders, shared regulations, it would make sense to consider the core EU states as 1 market. It is fully possible for someone in Belgium to regularly frequent stores in France or the Netherlands.

There are significant differences in language and purchasing habits between the countries. In what sense are the UK and France the same market when they use a different currency, a different language, and have wildly different taste? Just look at the relative performances of Nintendo and Microsoft in the UK and France.



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StarDoor said:
palou said:

Considering the strong economic ties, common currecy, free trade, open borders, shared regulations, it would make sense to consider the core EU states as 1 market. It is fully possible for someone in Belgium to regularly frequent stores in France or the Netherlands.

There are significant differences in language and purchasing habits between the countries. In what sense are the UK and France the same market when they use a different currency, a different language, and have wildly different taste? Just look at the relative performances of Nintendo and Microsoft in the UK and France.

Take, let's say, Quebec and British Colombia. They have different language, different taxation structure, and different tastes. I would also expect similar gaps between the Midwest, West and East coast of the United States. 

 

It would make sense to seperate the UK, perhaps - they have different currency, it's an island, and people don't travel as in consequence. But mainland Europe is, to me, too interconnected to be seperated into several different markets. If you look at France and Germany, taste is actually fairly similar.



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AngryLittleAlchemist said:
Bandorr said:

Ok thanks. So I was confusing "market"(UK) with "region"(Europe) . That makes things easy to understand.

Well Europe isn't a country ... so comparing it to Japan would be unfair ...

Working on that...



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Shouldn't we discount the Wii U by now like Nintendo has? If so the UK is still quite a bit bigger.



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palou said:
It's kind of funny that the 3DS in Japan only sold quite a bit more than all of that combined.

Japan has the world's biggest handheld market. The Switch let it overtake UK's market, because it takes tge space between handheld and console. It's also a bit iffy to include both the WiiU and the Switch in the same comparision.

Well that is not the only reason even the PS4 in Japan is outselling all of the console sales in UK currently



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AngryLittleAlchemist said:
Bandorr said:

Ok thanks. So I was confusing "market"(UK) with "region"(Europe) . That makes things easy to understand.

Well Europe isn't a country ... so comparing it to Japan would be unfair ...

There is a thing called the EU though which is pretty much the United States of Europe these days.



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Qwark said:
AngryLittleAlchemist said:

Well Europe isn't a country ... so comparing it to Japan would be unfair ...

There is a thing called the EU though which is pretty much the United States of Europe these days.

I know. Just saying. 



The wii u has been dead for a while now so shouldn't be included so Japan is still behind the uk for console sales.



Ruler said:

Japan

(PS4) 5,115,848+

(Wii U) 3,324,017+

(XBO) 81,225+

(Switch) 1,355,664+

=9,876,754 consoles

 

UK

(PS4) 4,597,122+

(XBO) 3,827,958+

(Wii U) 745,841+

(Switch) 238,294+

=9,409,215 consoles

opinions?

Wait, the difference between UK and Japan has WORSENED with the Switch? UK has sold 22,4% of japanese number of WiiUs, but only 17,% Switches. And Switches in Japan are supply constrained, while they aren't in UK. This actually blows my mind.



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RolStoppable said:
Mnementh said:

Wait, the difference between UK and Japan has WORSENED with the Switch? UK has sold 22,4% of japanese number of WiiUs, but only 17,% Switches. And Switches in Japan are supply constrained, while they aren't in UK. This actually blows my mind.

Really, really terrible. Nintendo is in a tough place now.

Not really, overall it is better. But this means the UK liked the WiiU more than the Switch.



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