It's not necessarily you counting it as the successor to the 3DS that is the problem (I also consider to be the successor to both the Wii U and 3DS), it's the way you go about doing it, your tone, and your intentions.

Well the poster I was quoting was talking about PS4...

Are you sure? Check again

Ps4 doesn't really get a lot of big killer apps.  It's more it gets a ton of medium to small sellers.  

Next year we'll have MHW,  Dynasty Warriors 9 and Kingdom hearts 3 probably. The likes of red dead 2 could do good aswell.  

We'll also get games for summer and fall next year that are not announced.  

My intentions are to compare consoles to the previous gen.  I'm an avid sales fan.  Before the Switch launched i followed ps4 vs PS3 on a weekly basis.  I've remained consistent and done it for the switch.  I can see people are paranoid though and think it's trolling.  

I was talking about PS4 beating the ps3 aligned 

I have in the past specifically said it needs to beat them to succeed but also in the past and present I've obviously said it doesn't.  In fact I've said it doesn't many more times then not.  

And the last few weeks I've changed my tune to it doesn't.  it can't be laid out any clearer then that.  

And those posts are nowhere near as bad as you sound.  For a man who regularly sites context,  you are ignoring the context here. 

Post #1 

Doesn't even mention it's not a success.  Even says sales are excellent. 

Post #2 

An overly negative post but again never says it's not a success and even says they're healthy. 

Post #3

I'm just talking sense so not sure why that was listed. 

Post #4 

Actually on second reading this talks sense aswell.  I said it only needs to sell 20m to be successful and even went as low as 15m. 

So what exactly are you calling out here?  I've said it more often then not that beating 3DS+Wii U is not a requirement to be successful.  so in hindsight I actually believe I used to say it had to beat them but those posts don't show it.  Maybe I've started to believe the lies people regularly talk about me on here,  when they re write my history.  Is there actually a case where I say it has to beat them? 

And I look forward to your reply to @kyuu because he's making a very valid point. 

Yes, you're such an avid sales fan that you think Vita is in the same generation as PS3, and PSP is in the same generation as PS2: Something which literally no one else has ever argued, because it is universally agreed upon that Vita is 8th gen and PSP is 7th gen.

I never said I was a very good sales fan.  I just always in my head assumed psp to be the ps2 gen because back then my friends were playing psp while I played the PSP.  

I've never taken part in any discussions on that topic so this is the first time I'm seeing people say otherwise. 

So what exactly are you trying to achieve here with this reply?  

Anyway this is turning into an anti Kerotan shit show. Here's something useful to the thread.

Famitsu digital estimates for August
DQXI 3DS: 11k
DQXI PS4: 32k
Undertale PS4: 30k
Undertale PSV: 15k
DQX (PS4, I assume?) 21k for retail, 18k for digital
DQII and III (PS4): 15k for both

What did they estimate DQ11 for July?

DQXI is almost at 1.5 million with digital ( retail 1343k + digital 145k).

So in total 1488k according to Famitsu.  2 more weeks? 

Anyway since this thread is still up I wanted to post this. 

"Every weekend, Nintendo Switch lotteries are still taking place across the country. Japanese Twitter user Kaztsu reported this morning 1388 people lined up for a Switch lottery at Bic Camera Akihabara for 100 units, and 478 people lined up for a Switch lottery at SoftMap Akihabara for 170 units."

Source. I reccommend you read more if you are interested

There is still massive shortages in Japan. Looks like we should expect bigger numbers in the future

It's meant to highlight why people think you're trolling. Every time you're misinformed about something, it's in a way that makes it easier for you to make a pro-Sony and anti-Nintendo narrative. If Vita goes with PS3, then Sony's performance this generation looks a lot more impressive: It means 7th gen was a huge decline in both handheld and home console sales, but at least PS4 is improving from the previous home console. Of course, Vita is 8th generation, so the real story of this gen is Sony losing a huge amount of handheld customers, a deficit that cannot be compensated for even with more home console sales.

Then there are the double standards. You've been very open about putting together 3DS and Wii U sales, so you clearly think that those two consoles are in the same generation. But then you turn around and claim that Vita doesn't go with PS4. This is in spite of the fact that 3DS released BEFORE Vita.

So, why would 3DS be 8th gen, and Vita be 7th gen in your eyes?

Answer: Because if you compare 3DS + Wii U versus Switch, it's a harder comparison for Nintendo than Wii U versus Switch or 3DS versus Switch. Therefore, you pick the comparison that makes Nintendo look worse.

On the other hand, if you only compare PS3 to PS4, it's an easier comparison for Sony than PSP+PS3 versus PSV+PS4. Therefore, you pick the comparison that makes Sony look better.