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Forums - Sales Discussion - Media Create/Famitsu/Dengeki - 11th - 17th Sept 2017

the_dengle said:
Ka-pi96 said:

But Vita means life!

Sorry guys but its weekly sales are less than half what the Wii U was doing this time last year. I know it still gets some games but I can’t find a pulse.

Anyway I do find PS4 & XBO comparisons interesting. Maybe we can get something from them. PS4 is of course killing the Switch in Europe. And I wonder what will happen when the One X launches, but for now I’m blown away by how the Switch is doing in the US especially compared to Xbox. They’re going to come in last place in their strongest market? Yikes.

@bold Proof? just wondering

And afaik Vita sales are lopsided in Winter due to the release of a few games, while Wii U just had a constant baseline. Late September and Early October are the worst weeks for Japan and even some in November.



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Kerotan said:
Jranation said:

Why is Wii U vs Switch not good? 

When you got sites comparing PS4 vs Switch. Or XB1 vs Switch

 

Unless its like: 

In Japan: Switch vs 3DS

In America and EU : Switch vs PS4

People compare Switch to ps4 not because they're the same type of console but because ps4 is sales king WW this gen.  Switch is showing early promise to a comparison to this gens leader is interesting for some.  There is no 1 comparison that should be done.  

There are many,  it's just some comparisons make more sense then others. Comparing Switch to a failed home console like Wii U or a failed handheld like Vita makes no sense.  Not only are they not hybrids like Switch but they also have terrible sales making a comparison pointless.  

 

3DS and ps4 while not hybrids at least have decent sales so a comparison is more interesting and useful to make. 

Maynard_Tool said:
People are still going at it? Really?

Damn son!

It's a forum.  we are doing what we are meant to do.  

Actually no, you are just as wrong as with your other “arguments” (if you call em that way) this thread is about sales, more specific, japanese sales from september 11th to 17th. Not about if you believe switch should sell like wii u + 3DS combined (mistakenly) or if you believe is a handheld. Because you chose to believe it (nintendo has already said is the succesor to the wii u, and their next bet for home console)

So no, you are not doing what you are supposed to.



Farsala said:

@bold Proof? just wondering

And afaik Vita sales are lopsided in Winter due to the release of a few games, while Wii U just had a constant baseline. Late September and Early October are the worst weeks for Japan and even some in November.

I mean, I just checked global VGC numbers for the past few weeks and compared them to Wii U numbers the same time last year. But I’ve noticed for a while now in the Media Create threads that Vita 2017 has barely been tracking ahead of Wii U 2016 in Japan, which is... not a great place to be.



Farsala said:
the_dengle said:

Sorry guys but its weekly sales are less than half what the Wii U was doing this time last year. I know it still gets some games but I can’t find a pulse.

Anyway I do find PS4 & XBO comparisons interesting. Maybe we can get something from them. PS4 is of course killing the Switch in Europe. And I wonder what will happen when the One X launches, but for now I’m blown away by how the Switch is doing in the US especially compared to Xbox. They’re going to come in last place in their strongest market? Yikes.

@bold Proof? just wondering

And afaik Vita sales are lopsided in Winter due to the release of a few games, while Wii U just had a constant baseline. Late September and Early October are the worst weeks for Japan and even some in November.

No, you are wrong. Completely wrong. Wii U was significantly more lopsided during the holiday season.

How much of the console's yearly sales came from just December:

2014:
Vita - 24.39%
Wii U - 31.76%

2015:
Vita - 26.56%
Wii U - 34.74%

2016:
Vita - 19.81%
Wii U - 10.77%

How much of the console's yearly sales came from November+December:

2014:
Vita - 32.96%
Wii U - 45.52%

2015:
Vita - 34.81%
Wii U - 49.57%

2016:
Vita - 27.11%
Wii U - 19.74%

In 2015, Vita actually sold 3k more than Wii U from January to October, but Wii U outsold Vita by 780k for the entire year because of the holiday season. (2.68M to 3.46M)

Vita was never a big seller during the holidays. It has a low ratio of holiday to non-holiday sales, even for PlayStation consoles.

As for proof:

Wii U 2016:
May: 102,649
June: 123,129
July: 105,281

Vita 2017:
May: 38,693
June: 44,572
July: 34,029

Vita is barely selling over a third of what Wii U did last year.



StarDoor said:
Farsala said:

@bold Proof? just wondering

And afaik Vita sales are lopsided in Winter due to the release of a few games, while Wii U just had a constant baseline. Late September and Early October are the worst weeks for Japan and even some in November.

No, you are wrong. Completely wrong. Wii U was significantly more lopsided during the holiday season.

How much of the console's yearly sales came from just December:

2014:
Vita - 24.39%
Wii U - 31.76%

2015:
Vita - 26.56%
Wii U - 34.74%

2016:
Vita - 19.81%
Wii U - 10.77%

How much of the console's yearly sales came from November+December:

2014:
Vita - 32.96%
Wii U - 45.52%

2015:
Vita - 34.81%
Wii U - 49.57%

2016:
Vita - 27.11%
Wii U - 19.74%

In 2015, Vita actually sold 3k more than Wii U from January to October, but Wii U outsold Vita by 780k for the entire year because of the holiday season. (2.68M to 3.46M)

Vita was never a big seller during the holidays. It has a low ratio of holiday to non-holiday sales, even for PlayStation consoles.

As for proof:

Wii U 2016:
May: 102,649
June: 123,129
July: 105,281

Vita 2017:
May: 38,693
June: 44,572
July: 34,029

Vita is barely selling over a third of what Wii U did last year.

By winter I only mean end of December to March.If I meant holidays I would say holidays, but Japan doesn't have strong Novembers.

Vita 2017> Wii U 2016 Yet there you have >300k during the slow months for Wii U and only 120k for Vita. Further proof that Vita sold a ton during Winter in comparison.



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Farsala said:
StarDoor said:

No, you are wrong. Completely wrong. Wii U was significantly more lopsided during the holiday season.

How much of the console's yearly sales came from just December:

2014:
Vita - 24.39%
Wii U - 31.76%

2015:
Vita - 26.56%
Wii U - 34.74%

2016:
Vita - 19.81%
Wii U - 10.77%

How much of the console's yearly sales came from November+December:

2014:
Vita - 32.96%
Wii U - 45.52%

2015:
Vita - 34.81%
Wii U - 49.57%

2016:
Vita - 27.11%
Wii U - 19.74%

In 2015, Vita actually sold 3k more than Wii U from January to October, but Wii U outsold Vita by 780k for the entire year because of the holiday season. (2.68M to 3.46M)

Vita was never a big seller during the holidays. It has a low ratio of holiday to non-holiday sales, even for PlayStation consoles.

As for proof:

Wii U 2016:
May: 102,649
June: 123,129
July: 105,281

Vita 2017:
May: 38,693
June: 44,572
July: 34,029

Vita is barely selling over a third of what Wii U did last year.

By winter I only mean end of December to March.If I meant holidays I would say holidays, but Japan doesn't have strong Novembers.

Vita 2017> Wii U 2016 Yet there you have >300k during the slow months for Wii U and only 120k for Vita. Further proof that Vita sold a ton during Winter in comparison.

Wii U 2016:

Jan: 158,865
Feb: 150,214
Mar: 190,174

Vita 2017:
Jan: 149,358
Feb: 96,991
Mar: 97,581

Even in Vita's supposed best time of the year, it sold less than Wii U did last year. And Vita 2017 is NOT ahead of Wii U 2016, what are you even talking about?

Wii U 2016 (total): 1,525,551
Wii U 2016 (by end of July): 955,629
Vita 2017 (by end of July): 515,375

Do you have dyscalculia or something?



StarDoor said:
Farsala said:

By winter I only mean end of December to March.If I meant holidays I would say holidays, but Japan doesn't have strong Novembers.

Vita 2017> Wii U 2016 Yet there you have >300k during the slow months for Wii U and only 120k for Vita. Further proof that Vita sold a ton during Winter in comparison.

Wii U 2016:

Jan: 158,865
Feb: 150,214
Mar: 190,174

Vita 2017:
Jan: 149,358
Feb: 96,991
Mar: 97,581

Even in Vita's supposed best time of the year, it sold less than Wii U did last year. And Vita 2017 is NOT ahead of Wii U 2016, what are you even talking about?

Wii U 2016 (total): 1,525,551
Wii U 2016 (by end of July): 955,629
Vita 2017 (by end of July): 515,375

Do you have dyscalculia or something?

My gosh we are in media create thread for a reason...

Should I call you dyslexic or some other reading comprehension disability since I been talking about Japan this entire time and especially apparent in my previous post. @bold

Edit: heck Dengle is the one that said Vita 2017>Wii U 2016, which is where I got the idea. Gonna correct him in this Media Create Thread?



What the hell is this thread anymore.



NintendoPie said:
What the hell is this thread anymore.

I guess this thread is trying to get me moderated for the first time in my VGchartz membership :P.

And I thought I was being fair to the Vita, considering it launched before the Wii U. Oh well classic Media create thread :).



Farsala said:

Edit: heck Dengle is the one that said Vita 2017>Wii U 2016, which is where I got the idea. Gonna correct him in this Media Create Thread?

Ah. Usually I’m overly conscious of specifying whether I’m discussing regional or global sales in NPD and MC threads, but it slipped my mind this time. I had been explicitly discussing global sales comparisons in one post, then in the next carried on talking about the Vita globally without realizing it. My mistake. Sorry for the confusion.

Anyway it’s not doing well in Japan though as I said it does still get some releases. But that’s not unusual for Sony systems.