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Nautilus on 08 September 2017
Aeolus451 said:
Nautilus said:

Just pointing out that the same way that he doesnt have a "source" for what he claims, you also dont have a source for what you claim.Where is a source for carts being more expensive, or rather being more expensive to the point of increasing the price by 10 dollars?

Personally, I dont think carts are that much expensive to bring up this difference to begin with, especially with 16 GB carts.One of these days Im gonna do a research on this topic so we can all do a concenssus.

"According to Eurogamer, Switch cards come in a wide range of capacities - 1GB, 2GB, 4GB, 8GB, 16GB and 32GB - and as you might imagine, the larger the size, the more the card costs to physically make."

http://www.nintendolife.com/news/2017/03/heres_why_nintendo_switch_games_cost_more_than_those_for_other_consoles

Here's is the article he was referring to. http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2017-03-10-why-nintendo-switch-games-are-ending-up-more-expensive

At least I have some sort of source on this. Most on here are just lowballing the costs to $2 to 3 instead of the full difference because they rather try to paint 3rd party devs as being greedy so they jacked up the price for profit increases instead of the asisinine format just making the games cost more. 

I am not arguing over if carts are more expensive.They are.I am asking if you have something that indicates that this price difference will result in a bump of 10 dollars in the final product.Mind you, I also think that people throwing around random numbers is a moot point, because they are not precise(even though in most cases those numbers are just to exemplify, not to be hard facts), but accusing people of not having proof, when you yourself have no proof either is hypocrite in my opinion.



My (locked) thread about how difficulty should be a decision for the developers, not the gamers.

https://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/thread.php?id=241866&page=1

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Cobretti2 on 08 September 2017
Aeolus451 said:
TheBraveGallade said:

hmm lets see.. a dual layer BD is 2$ tops.
a 16 gig SD card is 10$.

a 32 gig 15$

here you go plain and simple, considering packaging and shipping fees and all that cost equally as much.
its cheaper than old carts though. n64 games retailed for 80 if I remember correctly...

You forgot to mention that 3rd party devs/pubs are entirely at fault for the higher prices. 

Well its definetly not $10-15 more a cart, otherwise Australia would see similar price difference.

Some examples of our prices across all three.

Fifa 18  even cheaper on Switch. There is more to it than a big price difference in medium used.

https://i.imgur.com/760MmNn.png



 

 

Conina on 08 September 2017

The price difference has nothing to do with the costs of the medium, they are just testing the waters if the higher price gets accepted on Switch.

Cross-buy games on Vita are usually 10 - 20 € cheaper than the PS4 version despite the more expensive flash cart (f.e. Danganronpa 3, Chaos;Child, Steins;Gate 0, Zero Time Dilemma..)



TheBraveGallade on 08 September 2017
shikamaru317 said:
160rmf said:

Hã? How specs in the same device can change? 

If you're mentioning performance, considering  the Skyrim on Switch, it looks like you're taking these statements out of your ass.

The specs do indeed change between console and handheld modes, clock rates drop for handheld mode in order to extend the battery life. 

As far as theoretical performance goes, Switch in handheld mode is weaker than 360/PS3, Switch in handheld mode ranges from 157-196 gflops, based on which mode the developer chooses to use, while Switch in console mode has 393 gflops, versus 240 gflops for Xbox 360 and 400 gflops for PS3. Now of course theoretical performance is different from real-world performance, PS3 was never properly tapped into which is why the less powerful 360 typically had the better version of most multiplats. In raw specs, Switch is roughly on par with 360/PS3/Wii U, perhaps a bit better. In real world performance it beats 360/PS3/Wii U due to being easier develop for.

All that being said, my main point was that Switch simply isn't capable of running LA Noire at 4K, not to compare Switch to 360/PS3; the person I responded to was surprised that the 157/196/393 gflops Switch couldn't run 4K like the 4197 gflops PS4 Pro and 6000 gflops XB1 X can.

whoah woah ps3 is roughly equal to a wii U? thats bulshit. the wii U is QUITE a bit more powerful, and the ps3 to wii U gap is roughly what the wii U to docked switch gap is.



Pavolink on 08 September 2017

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Barozi on 08 September 2017

it's not going to cost exactly $10 more, they just went for the next price that's usual in the business. They wouldn't make a game cost $47.35 or even $47.99 officially.



Zekkyou on 08 September 2017
160rmf said:
shikamaru317 said:

You are surprised that a game that was 720p on 360/PS3 can't run at 4K on Switch, which has lower specs than 360/PS3 in handheld mode and only slightly higher specs than 360/PS3 in console mode?

Also, LA Noire is only 4k on XB1 X and PS4 Pro, not on the base models, it's 1080p native on the base models. 

Hã? How specs in the same device can change? 

If you're mentioning performance, considering  the Skyrim on Switch, it looks like you're taking these statements out of your ass.

The Switch's GPU runs at a substantially slower speed when in handheld mode to save battery, so it effectively has 2 different spec sets that developers have to consider.

Outside of that his comment is a bit misleading (you can't linearly compare the Switch to the PS3/360 because its tech is more modern and it has some other notable advantages), but his general point is valid. The Switch isn't running Skyrim at 4k, so that's not particularly relevant to what he was replying too. As he notes, the PS4 and X1 themselves aren't running L.A. Noir at 4k either. It's the Pro and X1X hitting that mark, and they're both a lot more powerful than a Switch (like a looooooot, the X1X is almost 20 times stronger in some respects than a docked Switch). 4k isn't kind to hardware :p



SvennoJ on 08 September 2017
Louie said:
SvennoJ said:

? Binding of Isaac is CAD 5.50 on Steam, rebirth CAD 17, Afterbirth CAD 12, Afterbirth+ CAD 11 the complete bundle in CAD 40.
Switch version is CAD 55, which is just Afterbirth+  CAD 44 more than the Steam version.

Well, I looked it up on Steam and those were the prices. Maybe I just don't get Steam but the page said Rebirth + Afterbirth + Afterbirth Plus is €36.97. 

You're comparing the price of 3 games to one single game. Switch version is only Afterbirth plus. If you click on Bundle info you can see how much afterbirth plus is alone. (That link automatically turns it into CAD prices for me, I get CAD 11 for Afterbirth plus)

However the ps4 version is listed as the same price as the Switch version here, both CAD 55.

But perhaps I'm not getting what all the different versions are. Maybe Afterbirth and Afterbirth plus are DLC, and although the Switch version is just called afterbirth plus, it is all those 3 things? That seems to make more sense, confusing naming. So it's 40 vs 55 here.

Disregard my confusion. I've only played the very first one and got bored with it pretty quickly. Never tried the other(s)



Louie on 08 September 2017
SvennoJ said:
Louie said:

Well, I looked it up on Steam and those were the prices. Maybe I just don't get Steam but the page said Rebirth + Afterbirth + Afterbirth Plus is €36.97. 

You're comparing the price of 3 games to one single game. Switch version is only Afterbirth plus. If you click on Bundle info you can see how much afterbirth plus is alone. (That link automatically turns it into CAD prices for me, I get CAD 11 for Afterbirth plus)

However the ps4 version is listed as the same price as the Switch version here, both CAD 55.

But perhaps I'm not getting what all the different versions are. Maybe Afterbirth and Afterbirth plus are DLC, and although the Switch version is just called afterbirth plus, it is all those 3 things? That seems to make more sense, confusing naming. So it's 40 vs 55 here.

Disregard my confusion. I've only played the very first one and got bored with it pretty quickly. Never tried the other(s)

Well, the way Steam makes it look you have to buy Rebirth and then the two DLC's seperately. So Afterbirth+ is just the DLC and not the main game. And yeah, the Switch version includes all the content from Rebirth, Afterbirth and Afterbirth+. 



Cubedramirez on 08 September 2017
shikamaru317 said:
Dyllyo said:
They already made their money back from Sony and Microsoft, I guess?

What I don't get is that it will be 4K on PS4 and Xbox, but not the Switch.

You are surprised that a game that was 720p on 360/PS3 can't run at 4K on Switch, which has lower specs than 360/PS3 in handheld mode and only slightly higher specs than 360/PS3 in console mode?

Also, LA Noire is only 4k on XB1 X and PS4 Pro, not on the base models, it's 1080p native on the base models. 

what source do you have that says the switch in handheld has lower specs than the 360/ps3?