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Aeolus451 said:
Ugh... BLM should learn to protest cases of legitimate unjustified shootings and perhaps focus on things that are actual threats to black people. Rioting and protesting justified shooting is just making them look really silly.

Some would argue that US cops shoot MUCH more than necessary. In 2015 (latest stats), US cops killed around 342 people per million. In Germany, that's 12, 5 for the UK and 4 for France.

 

Though I'd agree that it's unproductive to make the issue race-related.



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DraconianAC said:
monocle_layton said:
Stupid liberals protesting and using free speech! They're probably being paid by George Soros.

Stupid? You think it's stupid to express concern for the lives of your fellow man who may also happen to be the same ethnicity as you are? You think its stupid for them to unify and show their displeasure at a police force that is supposed to "protect and serve" not kill and ask questions later?  No I wouldn't call them stupid unless you truely believe they can't win or they are wrong.

I believe there were people back in the 50's and 60's that thought the civil rights movement was stupid, but history proved them wrong, though I'm sure there are plenty of neo-facist now-a-days that see it differently and want to roll back history. Nevertheless, freedom of assembly is afforded to them by the 1st amendment, as is your freedom of speech.

He's being sarcastic.



VGPolyglot said:
Is there a source for this? The links you have don't seem to be it. But assuming he did say it, no wonder they are able to shoot and kill black people the way they do.

Sorry about that heres a Source: http://www.nbcphiladelphia.com/news/local/Police-Union-President-Calls-Black-Lives-Matter-Protesters-Outside-Philadelphia-Officers-House-a-Pack-of-Rabid-Animals-Report-442452063.html?_osource=SocialFlowTwt_PHBrand




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DraconianAC said:
monocle_layton said:
Stupid liberals protesting and using free speech! They're probably being paid by George Soros.

Stupid? You think it's stupid to express concern for the lives of your fellow man who may also happen to be the same ethnicity as you are? You think its stupid for them to unify and show their displeasure at a police force that is supposed to "protect and serve" not kill and ask questions later?  No I wouldn't call them stupid unless you truely believe they can't win or they are wrong.

I believe there were people back in the 50's and 60's that thought the civil rights movement was stupid, but history proved them wrong, though I'm sure there are plenty of neo-facist now-a-days that see it differently and want to roll back history. Nevertheless, freedom of assembly is afforded to them by the 1st amendment, as is your freedom of speech.

 


I don't think it's stupid. I was mocking the people who whine about free speech, but criticize people who protest the police and government :(



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monocle_layton said:

 

DraconianAC said:

Stupid? You think it's stupid to express concern for the lives of your fellow man who may also happen to be the same ethnicity as you are? You think its stupid for them to unify and show their displeasure at a police force that is supposed to "protect and serve" not kill and ask questions later?  No I wouldn't call them stupid unless you truely believe they can't win or they are wrong.

I believe there were people back in the 50's and 60's that thought the civil rights movement was stupid, but history proved them wrong, though I'm sure there are plenty of neo-facist now-a-days that see it differently and want to roll back history. Nevertheless, freedom of assembly is afforded to them by the 1st amendment, as is your freedom of speech.

 


I don't think it's stupid. I was mocking the people who whine about free speech, but criticize people who protest the police and government :(

I failed to see it; apogolies for my lack of reading comprehesion. Promise to re-read 3+ times before jumping the gun next time. ^_-



I'd say that's an accurate description, I'd choose harsher words to describe them, personally.



Yeah?

 

I can see that. BLM was never based on logic, anyway.



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palou said:
Aeolus451 said:
Ugh... BLM should learn to protest cases of legitimate unjustified shootings and perhaps focus on things that are actual threats to black people. Rioting and protesting justified shooting is just making them look really silly.

Some would argue that US cops shoot MUCH more than necessary. In 2015 (latest stats), US cops killed around 342 people per million. In Germany, that's 12, 5 for the UK and 4 for France.

 

Though I'd agree that it's unproductive to make the issue race-related.

The US has alot higher levels of crime (there's guns too) in comparison to germany or france so that comparison is useless in this. The main reason why people get shot by cops is because they do things that justify that reaction from a cop. There's alot of misinformation about cops and laws that leads to the situations. Somewhere idiots got the idea that cops are out to get them and that resisting cops is a good idea. Romanticizing the "resist the cops" is what is getting people killed.



Aeolus451 said:
palou said:

Some would argue that US cops shoot MUCH more than necessary. In 2015 (latest stats), US cops killed around 342 people per million. In Germany, that's 12, 5 for the UK and 4 for France.

 

Though I'd agree that it's unproductive to make the issue race-related.

The US has alot higher levels of crime (there's guns too) in comparison to germany or france so that comparison is useless in this. The main reason why people get shot by cops is because they do things that justify that reaction from a cop. There's alot of misinformation about cops and laws that leads to the situations. Somewhere idiots got the idea that cops are out to get them and that resisting cops is a good idea. Romanticizing the "resist the cops" is what is getting people killed.

Crime rates are higher, but most definitely not 30, 60 times higher in the US. (6 times higher for homicide, but much less of difference for other, lesser crimes - and most of the incidences involve lesser crimes.)

One thing one could add to that is that the average formation of a police officer is 19 weeks (some less), in the US, while it takes years in most other western nations to obtain your permit (130 weeks of training in Germany). 

I would most definitely expect better than a license obtained over an extended summer break for the persons we trust with the power and extended rights to apply impartial executive justice in our society to the benefit of our society.



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