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Aeolus451 said:
palou said:

Some would argue that US cops shoot MUCH more than necessary. In 2015 (latest stats), US cops killed around 342 people per million. In Germany, that's 12, 5 for the UK and 4 for France.

 

Though I'd agree that it's unproductive to make the issue race-related.

The US has alot higher levels of crime (there's guns too) in comparison to germany or france so that comparison is useless in this. The main reason why people get shot by cops is because they do things that justify that reaction from a cop. There's alot of misinformation about cops and laws that leads to the situations. Somewhere idiots got the idea that cops are out to get them and that resisting cops is a good idea. Romanticizing the "resist the cops" is what is getting people killed.

Crime rates are higher, but most definitely not 30, 60 times higher in the US. (6 times higher for homicide, but much less of difference for other, lesser crimes - and most of the incidences involve lesser crimes.)

One thing one could add to that is that the average formation of a police officer is 19 weeks (some less), in the US, while it takes years in most other western nations to obtain your permit (130 weeks of training in Germany). 

I would most definitely expect better than a license obtained over an extended summer break for the persons we trust with the power and extended rights to apply impartial executive justice in our society to the benefit of our society.



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