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Nintendo handheld? Successful? No revisions? Enormous bezel on this one?

...yeah.



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I think there's a possibility for an improved revision, with either the current Tegra chip for improved battery life and better docked performance or even the revision after that for improved performance all around and slight gains in battery life.

Either would probably have largely the same formfactor, since (contrary to 3DS/New 3DS) the Switch doesn't have any glaring design omissions and I don't think making it much thinner than it is, would be an option thermal-wise. Also the Joy-Con wouldn't fit anymore and thinner ones would feel very ankward.

An XL variant of the same thickness has a remote chance to be made compatible with pre-existing Docks and Joy-Con at least, but the chances of that are probably pretty slim unless they pull an Ipad 9,7" to Ipad 10,5" like move and keep the size of the actual frame identical.

Lastly I think an enhanced dock or supplemental computing device might be a thing down the line.



flashfire926 said:

Many people think a Switch Mini/Switch XL/Switch TV will come out in sometime during the Switch's life-cycle.

However, based on Nintendo's past consoles and compatibity and marketing issues, I dont think any of these will ever come to fruition.

If a switch Xl happens, there will have to be bigger joycons especially for the XL, leading to mass confusion and people pickking up the wrong size of joycons. The dock would also probably need to be widened, leading to two different types of docks. Okay, I see someone saying that they could just get rid of the thick bezels and replace it with screen to get a significantly bigger display, However, that would straight up kill the battery life. Since the console is the same size and will probably have the same size of battery, that same amount of battery running an even bigger screen would shorten the battery life eve more than how it is now. Also, a question in general, isnt 6.2 inches big enough for a handheld? A bigger size will only make it less portable. If you want to get a bigger screen, all you have to do is hook it up to your tv. Simple.

Now, Switch Mini, if youre supposed to be able to dock it and detach joycons, it faces the same probem as the XL with the different size of dock and joycon, causing mass confusion. However, the more common pitch I've seen is this: "Portable only, undetachable joycons, a bit smaller, for $200, and this will open up the switch to an even bigger audience".

There are a few issues with that. First off, this is quite redundant for a budget product since youre now paying $60 for portable only games (unless they make seperate versions for the mini, which would again cause huge confusion and would be too complicated). Secondly, this wont sit well with the console's name and its tagline: "Switch and Play".  This model will be sorta contradictory to what the Switch was set out to be. And the biggest point of all is: "So you want a handheld that plays Nintendo games and is significantly cheaper than the Switch? Than the 3DS ids for you". You see, the 3DS family is already that budget system that people want Switch Mini to be. And yeah, I admit that the 3ds is waning and on its way out, but by the time 3DS gets dicontinued (circa. 2019), the Switch would already be hitting $200, really not having a real need for a budget version of the console by that point.

And to the people who think Switch TV could happen:


 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

And lastly , lets take a look at Nintendo's past consoles. The Wii U didnt have a console revision. The Wii only had a slight revision where all that happened was that it lost Gamecube compatibility and bacame horizontal rather than vertical. The Gamecube didnt have a console revision. The N64 didnt have a console revision. Nintendo hasnt had a significant change midway of a home console cycle since the SNES. 

I think at most the Switch will get a slight tweak that improves build quality or adds a 64 gb drive or somthing like that, but not much more than that.

But who knows, maybe this all blows up in my face and all three models get released. I am no expert and this is pure speculation at the end of the day.

Thoughts?

Now the strategy is in making New Dock ? 



They're not going to stick with the Tegra X1 for 5+ years.



With the Tegra TX2 chip available, a hardware revision is almost guaranteed, especially since it can double the battery time or enable smaller form factors. And the market demands a smaller, 3DS XL sized miniature version of the switch.



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Consoles will see more and revisions, and the trend is already quite clear. So, the opposite of what OP is claiming will hold true. There will be lots and lots of revisions, especially if they want to keep selling the thing for a few years.



I can see this prediction easily coming true tbh I can see a mini version being possible though.



PAOerfulone said:
flashfire926 said:

However, based on Nintendo's past consoles and compatibity and marketing issues, I dont think any of these will ever come to fruition.

And that is where your argument fails.
The Switch is not like any of Nintendo's past consoles before, in the fact that none of them also functioned like a handheld. And every single Nintendo handheld, from the 3DS all the way back to the original Game Boy has had multiple revisions and variations.

Yup, actually Switch like hybrid gave much more opportunities for different type revisions than any other Nintendo hardware, especially with strong point that Switch will be only Nintendo platform and where they stop to divide they resources on separate home console and separate handheld platforms.

 

killeryoshis said:
The Switch is designed so well though. I don't really see any significant changes for it. The Original DS and 3DS needed revisions at the time and so did the GBA. I just don't see any huge flaws that a Switch revision would fix.

I am on the camp of no major revision except for maybe memory upgrades. They might make a smaller more simple version of the Switch for kids though.

Revisions/variations are not made just because there some flaws with current models, they are also made to offer to market different price points of platform for users with difrent needs. Do you really think 3DS had so many flaws that needed 6 revisions (including 2DS) to fix them, or that Sony relased PS4 Pro beacuse regular PS4 has some flaws!?

 

 

fatslob-:O said:
I almost agree with OP, revisions are going to become less frequent with the Switch ... 

Transistor technology progression is slowing down ... (less chances to upgrade the chips)
Big form factor ? (how much bigger does the Switch need to be ?)
Non-portable SKU ? (effectively kills one of the selling points of the platform)

Actually revisions could become more frequent with Switch because with fact that Switch is hybrid there too many opportunities of different types of Switch hardware and price points.

Switch is 28nm and there is already 20nm Nvidia chip that gives better battery life and less heat. Switch doesn't need to be bigger, but always is nice to have more variations of hardware (look at 3DS). Nintendo already released 2DS like part of 3DS family, that tells us that Nintendo does not fear to make different versions of console.



Just look at 3DS and how many hardware variations it had.
Nintendo will 100% do hardware variations with the Switch too.



Miyamotoo said:

Actually revisions could become more frequent with Switch because with fact that Switch is hybrid there too many opportunities of different types of Switch hardware and price points.

Switch is 28nm and there is already 20nm Nvidia chip that gives better battery life and less heat. Switch doesn't need to be bigger, but always is nice to have more variations of hardware (look at 3DS). Nintendo already released 2DS like part of 3DS family, that tells us that Nintendo does not fear to make different versions of console.

The Switch uses 20nm technology ... 

And the Switch arguably has less paths to choose from than the other Nintendo handhelds before once we factor in the things I mentioned ... (the only reasonable aspect of releasing non-portable SKU is to get a potentially lower price)