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celador on 01 August 2017
Lafiel said:
celador said:
it's funny, I was searching to see how much profit Sony made this quarter ($1.4b) and the Bloomberg article mentioned vgchartz data for Uncharted 4.

Anyway, are Sony out of the woods yet overall?

as I said previously in this thread, this is the highest operating profit Sony ever made in a FY Q1 (= yes, it's looking good for Sony)

ok, that's good to hear

i remember when people were talking about PS4's success possibly being in vain because Sony might not be able to turn things around. Not sure how much truth there was to it, but people said it



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thismeintiel on 01 August 2017
Noobie said:
thismeintiel said:

Sony's prediction is to be down by 2M from last F Y year. This report is the first for this FY and they are only down by 200K.  There is little chance they are going to drop 1.8M more in the remaining FY.  Even if they drop 200K each quarter, that's only 800K down for the whole FY. In other words, Sony was being slightly conservative with their forecast.  

Personally, I only see them being down by 1M, so they will be have sold 79M by March 2018.  Do you seriously think that the PS4 is only going to sell 13M for the remaining 3-4 years it's on the market?  Come on, be realistic.  It'll sell 13M, at the very least, up until the next FY is over, March 2019.

The PS4 is outselling the Wii.  Just like the PS1 and PS2 did.

Sony had a Massive Holiday Quarter last year. 9.7 million. I doubt Sony can come close to it this year without dropping the price. 

To me, all indication shows that Sony has no intention of dropping PS4 price permanently this year. If they do drop price than it can definitely do in the range of 9 - 10 million in the holiday quarter. Else I think it will be below 9 million for sure. 

Sony has mostly done near to what it has predicted for the year. Rarely has it overshot those initial estimates. 

Oh, there will be a price cut this year. It'll probably only be $50 for both, Slim to $249 (with a $199 SKU during the holidays) and Pro to $349.  And Sony already used the 78M figure in their PR.  They know for a certainty that's what they can hit.  Anything over is just icing on the cake.  If they had predicted 20M, then most likely we would be seeing a $100 cut to both.



 

COKTOE on 01 August 2017
Lenny93 said:
Hiku said:

That seems to be what most people expect.
Do you still believe PS4 will only outsell PS3 by 3 million?
Not like PS3 had any problems or anything.

I think it will sale 92 million and I expect the PlayStation 5 to be released in November 2019. 

Predicting 92 million PS4 sales in a comment, and predicting 122 million PS4 sales in your sig. That's quite the discrepancy. It's gonna pass 92 million easy.



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jason1637 on 01 August 2017
DonFerrari said:
jason1637 said:

Oh lol I missed that part of the OP. 348 million is really good for this point In the PS4s life. It will probably be over 400 million by next year which is really impressive.

Almost no one anymore expects PS4 to outsell PS2 in HW, but how far are they going to be on SW? That is an interesting battle. Market for SW seem to have increased a lot (higher tie ratios) in gen 7 and 8. And considering the smaller digital titles PS4 will surely sell over 1.5B SW, but retail (phy+dig) is an incognita.

 

In June they said its around 480 million so yeah its a lot higher than 348 million. PS2 had a good attach rate imo but i think the PS4 can hit 1.5b software.

RolStoppable said:
jason1637 said:

Oh lol I missed that part of the OP. 348 million is really good for this point In the PS4s life. It will probably be over 400 million by next year which is really impressive.

348.1 billion yen is the revenue for the most recent quarter. There is no mention of software shipments.

Okay thanks for clearing that up.



DonFerrari on 01 August 2017
TheBlackNaruto said:
Wow way to go Sony! It is still crazy though....up YOY in sales but down YOY in shipments lol. So they shipped less but sold more that is funny. But it is still odd so if sales are up and the 2nd half of the year is bigger than the first then wouldn't they have to up the shipments? I still think they are low balling shipments but time will tell.

Personally I think this will be the peak year in sales. But shipments is something totally different.

Well that could be translated on how much they were stuffing in preparation for something in Q2 or holidays... but it sure is funny.

celador said:
Lafiel said:

as I said previously in this thread, this is the highest operating profit Sony ever made in a FY Q1 (= yes, it's looking good for Sony)

ok, that's good to hear

i remember when people were talking about PS4's success possibly being in vain because Sony might not be able to turn things around. Not sure how much truth there was to it, but people said it

Even funnier was people betting that PS4 alone would save Sony, but sure the ones that based that PS4 would help Sony image and recover other markets may have reason.

But I would say Sony have been recovering good enough over the last couple years.

in 5 years stock went from 11 to 41, quite the improvement. for reference MS from 30 to 74, Nintendo 8 to 37.

Of course each company stock doesn't relate to other, but the increase in value have been quite good for Nintendo as games only, Sony as eletronics (impulsionated a lot by PS4 itself) and MS as a regular giant.

COKTOE said:
Lenny93 said:

I think it will sale 92 million and I expect the PlayStation 5 to be released in November 2019. 

Predicting 92 million PS4 sales in a comment, and predicting 122 million PS4 sales in your sig. It's gonna pass 92 million easy. That's easy money in a bet.

He commented that he understood a post on the sales and that he was lowballing the sales.



duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994

Azzanation: "PS5 wouldn't sold out at launch without scalpers."

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DonFerrari on 01 August 2017
jason1637 said:
DonFerrari said:

Almost no one anymore expects PS4 to outsell PS2 in HW, but how far are they going to be on SW? That is an interesting battle. Market for SW seem to have increased a lot (higher tie ratios) in gen 7 and 8. And considering the smaller digital titles PS4 will surely sell over 1.5B SW, but retail (phy+dig) is an incognita.

 

In June they said its around 480 million so yeah its a lot higher than 348 million. PS2 had a good attach rate imo but i think the PS4 can hit 1.5b software.

RolStoppable said:

348.1 billion yen is the revenue for the most recent quarter. There is no mention of software shipments.

Okay thanks for clearing that up.

Do you remember if that was physical, retail or all?



duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994

Azzanation: "PS5 wouldn't sold out at launch without scalpers."

jason1637 on 01 August 2017
DonFerrari said:
jason1637 said:

 

In June they said its around 480 million so yeah its a lot higher than 348 million. PS2 had a good attach rate imo but i think the PS4 can hit 1.5b software.

Okay thanks for clearing that up.

Do you remember if that was physical, retail or all?

physical and digital

Edit: It was at 401million by the end of last year so it sold around 80million software in 6 months. Pretty insane sales.



Aeolus451 on 01 August 2017

I like those sales numbers. Keep it up sony.



LethalP on 01 August 2017
jason1637 said:
DonFerrari said:

Almost no one anymore expects PS4 to outsell PS2 in HW, but how far are they going to be on SW? That is an interesting battle. Market for SW seem to have increased a lot (higher tie ratios) in gen 7 and 8. And considering the smaller digital titles PS4 will surely sell over 1.5B SW, but retail (phy+dig) is an incognita.

 

In June they said its around 480 million so yeah its a lot higher than 348 million. PS2 had a good attach rate imo but i think the PS4 can hit 1.5b software.

June 11th 487 million software, 60.4 million hardware. Almost 500 million in 3.5 years. The next 3.5 years will see even bigger software sales due to install base growth. So 1 billion is in the bag even before the PS5 releases (assuming it releases 2020).

There's no reason to believe it won't do 1.5 billion when you consider PS consoles sell in the hundreds of millions in software even after their successors are released. PS3 must have sold a cool 250 million in software from the launch of the PS4 to now.



DonFerrari on 01 August 2017
jason1637 said:
DonFerrari said:

Do you remember if that was physical, retail or all?

physical and digital

Edit: It was at 401million by the end of last year so it sold around 80million software in 6 months. Pretty insane sales.

Good, but shall we consider it includes digital only and indie games?



duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994

Azzanation: "PS5 wouldn't sold out at launch without scalpers."