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Lawlight said:

Do you have numbers for those Switch games you listed?

I don't know. Is there something like a website that lists video game sales? 



Lawlight said:
AlfredoTurkey said:

Try harder.

The theard is about the Japanese CONSOLE MARKET. Not software, not world wide sales... consoles... in Japan. Switch is getting Japan back into the home console market because it allows them to take it on the go as well. That's the entire point of the thread.

I'm actually looking closely at the text and can't see where it says Japanese console market only? I made the same mistake as you.

Also, the Switch is also a handheld so tough to know if it revitalised the console market.

The switch revitalized the console market because it's a handheld console on the go. It only plays console games on a lower resolution when not docked. When docked you get the console resolution. Regardless many less demanding Japanese titles can be ported to the switch. I can sss namco paying close attention to the switches sales in Japan. I mean they and nintnedo are already porting pokken over. 



Turkish said:

When KT says this they mean their games sell a shit ton more this gen compared to last gen and not just in Japan. They're a lot bigger in the West now, and Asia. Games like AoT, all those Musou games, Nioh, DOA, Berserk, their rpg studio, they even brought back their RTS games.

Ganoncrotch said:
You know... while I absolutely love my ps4 and Switch as consoles it has to be said that they wouldn't look quite as impressive in their own rights if it wasn't for the VHS sized ugly duckly which MS kicked out onto the market this gen trailing Kinect and unwanted TV apps behind it.

It's just like being in a bar and there is a semi nice looking guy/girl... but they're standing next to a monster, makes them look like an instant 10, that's what MS has done this gen for Nintendo and Sony, it has become the other consoles fat friend.

I hope this comparison doesn't cause upset as it sounds rather harsh, I'm just trying to put things in context here and it does sound like a dig at the X1, but it's not just that... I'm saying that the PS4 on its own isn't the most amazing piece of kit that it could have been, it does feature some great specs but as games like Assassins Creed Unity have shown it is heavily lacking in the CPU department to handle "next gen" AI in comparison to what the CELL could allow in games last generation,

That comparison sucks. PS4 is a 8 or 9 for its incredible lineup, not his problem MS is a 2.

"I'm saying that the PS4 on its own isn't the most amazing piece of kit that it could have been"

For the price you did get the best available, there was no gimmick bundled, I too wanted $499 PS4 with a HD7950 and beefier cpu, but it probbaly wouldn't have sold as good.

Besides, current gen games look great. ACU isn't a benchmark, games like GoW, Horizon, Death Stranding etc are what its capable of, not some 3rd party game.

It's not just hardware where the system falls down in ways though, it's the first Playstation system to not be able to play PSone games (and I mean all of them, even the psp/vita at least had them on the store) Lacking in PS2 BC as well for no real hardware reason.

It's also missing the ability to pair with blue tooth headsets for audio out (if I want to use my pair with the system I have to remote play the Vita to the ps4 and then connect the headset to the vita).

Controllers lacking ability to turn off that light to preserve battery should be a non issue, even as an LED it's still a waste of power which is not needed.

PSVR setup and cabling is as bad if not worse than Switch voice app cabling.

It can't play or transfer music to the system, you can now have it on a usb stick but no ability to transfer it over to the HDD like you could with the ps3

 

See a lot of the above issues are nothing to do with hardware, they're just issues I have with the system in the way that Sony have allowed the gamers to use it. I completely agree that for €299 (I think was what I paid) the amount of power in the box is insane, coupled with 8gb GDDR5 is something that you would be hard pressed to construct a PC at that price nevermind one which had any sort of graphics power similar to that.

Games library is fantastic, tons of great indies and AAA's just love the beast because of the install base, it is missing some classics, like I said, the lack of ps1 and 2 games on the system as a long time fan means I still have to keep my day 1 ps3 set up for full playstation library support (not that I don't love that phat beast anyway)

But yeah, it aint the perfect 10 is all I'm saying, but for the price it's hard to fault it unless you want to get nitpicky

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Well ps4 has revitalised the market in Asia for sure. Many Japanese companies seeing strong sales in Asia not including Japan.



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I'm not sure why people are so skeptical of this statement in regards to the switch. This is tecmo we're talking about, this is the company that makes stuff like nioh and warriors and fatal frame and nights of azure. None of those games would do well on Xbox and PC is still kind of hit or miss when it comes to nich Japanese stuff so the fact that the switch is doing well means they have 2 viable platforms to work with instead of 1.



AlfredoTurkey said:
DaveTheMinion13 said:
PS4 yes, Switch not so much......Switch has ultimatley only seen their own fee games succeed......and we have no id3a how its actaully selling because Nintendo cant even make the damn thing. PS4 has brought back the PS2 days worldwide, mear everything is selling great on it

Try harder.

The theard is about the Japanese CONSOLE MARKET. Not software, not world wide sales... consoles... in Japan. Switch is getting Japan back into the home console market because it allows them to take it on the go as well. That's the entire point of the thread.

No, it's not. It's about an article which talks about the big 3 and which ones are revitalizing the market as a whole ( a specific market wasn't mentioned so it's a given that is was talking about the whole). Also, it could seen as software is included in this because koei tecmo is a 3rd party dev/pub talking about doing well and supporting the consoles. You didn't create the thread so stow it. Go wake up or drink some coffee.



The fact was, that in japan, home consoles were dying off fast and the switch instantly brought hope to the home console devs. The ps4 just only hit the 4.5 mil mark... when the wii U was over 3.5 for two years.



It's nice to see they included the Switch, even if it's a little early to say that. It's definitely doing well in Japan.



 

              

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Not sure if I'd go as far as to say they revitalized the market, especially the Switch this early in its life.

Love both consoles tho.



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