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Forums - Gaming Discussion - E3 2017: Indies 'Less Relevant Now,' Says PlayStation's Jim Ryan

naruball on 21 June 2017
Mbolibombo said:
Yeah that is a silly statement to make.

Indies are more relevant than ever, they are making the videogame business thrive and progress at this point. No point in putting them down Jim with nonsense like that.

Taken completely out of context, it sure is.



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crissindahouse on 21 June 2017

Well, they were always less relevant, Sony just used them in the early years because they didn't have much else and that's where their big advantage was. That's why they told everyone how an indie game is as important as an AAA game and how this is the reason why PS4 is so much better if it comes to games.

And it worked, just look back how many threads we got about indie games on PS4 and how Sony destroys MS because of that in the early years of this gen. Some Sony fans were like "Indie is like AAA", simply because Sony said it. 

Now Sony has a lot of bigger games and with that Sony doesn't need these games anymore (to prove anything). Now it's all about bigger exclusives and VR. But with VR only as long as they are the only console manufacturer with that. When the competition will also use VR headsets then it will be "VR isn't that relevant"



naruball on 21 June 2017
RJ_Sizzle said:

This thread had me like  at first.

The way this is worded sounds dismissive of the indie scene. This sounds like the kind of stuff you come up with when you're trying to excuse shortchanging your E3 presentation. There are still great indie games, and still deserve a spotlight. There should always be room for major studios and small alike on the platform.  It's not the indie gaming scene's fault that they threw AAA marketing behind a smaller title and got burned for it. Don't start burning that bridge now.

Did you read the entire quote or just the title?



arcaneguyver on 21 June 2017

There are definitely two ways to read this.
#1: "We don't need indie filler anymore now that we have enough AAA content."
#2: "People know about the "Indiestation 4" so we have replaced the indie montage with a VR montage."

Considering they trimmed out content like GT Sport to make the show 60 minutes (which I imagine is a 'magic number' per market research or whatever), I personally go with #2.



jason1637 on 21 June 2017



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Ali_16x on 21 June 2017
jason1637 said:

The only reason Microsoft started to treat indies good was when Sony did, same with Nintendo. Indies have gotten so successful on consoles BECAUSE of Sony. That's why the PS4 has the most indies. And even then, Sony still treats indies good, they give them so much marketing on Twitter/YouTube.



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Mr Puggsly on 21 June 2017

Great news, maybe that means we'll get less indie junk on PS Plus.



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Zoombael on 21 June 2017

i f*ing hope so. And i guess Sony stuffing their mouths with monthly indie in ps plus helped.



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celador on 21 June 2017

clearly saying it's less relevant in terms of being part of the E3 showcase

funny to see MS jumping on this, they only gave a shit about indies when Sony got praise

but when you desperately need a win, no matter how small...



vivster on 21 June 2017
celador said:
clearly saying it's less relevant in terms of being part of the E3 showcase

funny to see MS jumping on this, they only gave a shit about indies when Sony got praise

but when you desperately need a win, no matter how small...

That's the case if you conveniently ignore that MS started the whole indie renaissance with the X360.



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