The Xbox One X's main competition is... | |||
| PS4 Pro | 93 | 31.31% | |
| Xbox One S | 5 | 1.68% | |
| Switch | 28 | 9.43% | |
| PS4 Slim | 15 | 5.05% | |
| Other | 19 | 6.40% | |
| Phil is an asshole. | 137 | 46.13% | |
| Total: | 297 | ||
| Ganoncrotch said: The consoles main competition is $499.99 |
Never expected such a comment. Bravo!
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| Machiavellian said: Actually he is probably correct as far as how MS view the Pro. If MS felt the X1X was competing with the Pro, they would have taken a price cut and sold it either 399 or 449. Since MS decided to sell it at 499, they are positioning the device as a clear premium console above what they believe the pro is. I believe one of the problems with statements like this is people take things out of context. What I mean is that people get all upset when they read a blurb about something someone says but never look at the over all interview or paragraph to understand where that person is coming from. Its clear that Phil view the PS4 Pro as a mass market console with its price. Anyone looking at the Pro knows Sony really did not do that much to the system beside bump up the GPU. MS and Sony had very different goals when they made their mid gen systems. Sony was going for a more modest update while MS knew that they needed to go bigger because just doing the same thing nets them nothing. |
If he just said X1X isn't competing with PS4Pro because they have a different vision them ok, but when he justifies that on the 40% GPU difference and them say PS4Pro is competing with X1S (which is 3x as powerfull as X1S) then it becomes completelly silly.
duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"
http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363
Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"
http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994
Azzanation: "PS5 wouldn't sold out at launch without scalpers."
Thanks Phill, this will make for another great Xbox hate thread.
Why does Crackdown 3 look like a downgraded mess though? What happened with the physics? the destruction? the "power of the cloud" ?
I guess cancelling it wasn't an option after Scalebound.
Regardless of his faults, which are mounting, he's still a very impressive attempt at a human facsimile. I'm guessing he has a short life span, and this new diatribe is a result of his accelerated degradation.
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BraLoD said:
Don't come to us to talk logic. |
Sorry, I've been away from posting for so long that I forgot logic can't be used if it can be seem as bad against some demographic =p
So yes, PS4Pro is marginally inferior to X1S because the second run movies at 4k and on a different level of X1X because the last have better pixels.
duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"
http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363
Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"
http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994
Azzanation: "PS5 wouldn't sold out at launch without scalpers."
Hiku said:
But the thing is, most games will be fairly comparable on Pro and XB1X. Did you see Digital Foundry's test on Assasins Creed? It uses checkerboard upscaling to 4K on XB1X. It's not native. And it runs at 30f. And this is expected to be the case for most multiplats. There will be a few that are native 4K, but that's going to be rare. Hell, some even are on Pro, like FIFA. But for the most part, Pro and XB1X will be the systems you go to if you want better framerate or upscaled resolution. Obviously XB1X will look better. But not a whole lot, I imagine, since the games are designed with the lowest common denominator in mind. (XBO) |
I agree with this but the difference might be in 4K textures which could make the X1X look like the PC Ultra. This is something that is not being showcase with at least 3rd party games at E3 but could be something that ship on release. With the amount of memory and bandwidth, I am hoping this will allow more developers to ship or download those 4K textures and assets which will get the X1X closer to a PC Ultra setting.
| spemanig said: I don't think he's wrong. People are dogging what he says too much just to hate. He isn't being a troll. PS4 Pro clearly had very different design ambitions from the XBO-X, and that's okay. It's not worse. It's a different system catering to a different demographic. He's not saying it can't compete, he's saying it's not the same thing, because it's not. XBO-X is a console for people who want something closer to PC performance without the headache of a PC. That never was what the PS4 Pro was trying to be. PS4 Pro was just trying to be a better PS4 for VR. So much needless demonization in this thread. |
What are you talking about?! How is the PS4Pro different at all...?! The only difference is around 40%, same as between PS4 and X1.
He constantly tries to deceive XBox fans and people are OK with it?!
You're right...it is no competition. At 150$ more and still no VR it simply won't be competition at all.
spemanig said:
The XBOS was a mid generation upgrade, too. A smaller one. Like the PS4 Pro. Do you see the quote start to make sense, now? |
The XB1S wasn't really an upgrade at all...those few MHZ overclocking don't make a difference. It's more of a revision. And no, it's a PR spin and doesn't make sense at all. It's arrogant even.
| DonFerrari said: Comming from very far away and going back to there... but just wanted to point something no one done here. If X1X is not in competition with PS4Pro because it have 40% more GPU power, then how can he say PS4Pro is competing with X1S when PS4Pro have almost 200% more GPU than X1S or we could say 3:1 Power level? |
Exactly...and to sing Spencer's song...the PS4 seemingly never was competition for the X1 since it had the same 40% advantage.
Im pretty sure the majority of the consumers dont do reserch and just go based of pr, so this will trick a lot of people. Problem is that its still expensive and has few exclusive games and less people are in that ecosystem, so more power might nt mean much compared to the rest of sony benefits.
Not to mention what would happen when people see comparisons next to each other with the 1x and pro and they cant tell the diference.
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