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Has E3 been disapointing thus far?

Yes. 150 38.46%
 
No. 40 10.26%
 
Its been more than disapp... 28 7.18%
 
MS conference wasn't disappointing. 31 7.95%
 
Sony's conference wasn't disappointing. 62 15.90%
 
Bethesda's conference wasn't disappointing. 3 0.77%
 
Ubisoft's conference wasn't disappointing. 73 18.72%
 
EA's conference wasn't.... 3 0.77%
 
Total:390
KLAMarine on 13 June 2017

Was watching the NBA Finals. What'd I miss?



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KLAMarine on 13 June 2017
estebxx said:
We had two amazing years one after the other, so i guess it was a matter of time before we got something like this.

What were you hoping for?



starcraft on 13 June 2017
LuckyTrouble said:
starcraft said:

Well, it is deniably stronger, because here I am denying it

That logic cuts both ways. Sony didn't announce a single AAA game outside of Monster Hunter, which we now know is coming to Xbox. Indeed, the best version will be on Xbox. Again, Microsoft showed as many if not more games than Sony during this conference.

Does that change that, more generally, Sony are currently managing their console better? No. But in discussing these two keynotes specifically, your argument really struggles to stack up.

Sony strengthened existing AAA's we knew little about. I won't defend their lack of overall new announcements, but I will praise the positive feedback generated by showing quality gameplay trailers for Spiderman, God of War, and Days Gone. I will praise firmly establishing what Detroit actually is after a relatively ambigious reveal last year. They gave focus to PSVR and announced new IP without making it look gimmicky and showing that PSVR isn't just a passing trend for them. They even managed to genuinely surprise with the SotC remaster/remake announcement. Along with a nice show pre-press conference, Sony focused on the games, gave us much needed details, snuck in a couple announcements, and avoided using indies as a time filling crutch.

Microsoft focused on a piece of hardware that is too ambitious at this time and is going to have a hard time selling at a $500 price point. They showed one new AAA that isn't a new IP. They got rights to first showing of Anthem and Metro Exodus, and that was neat at least until you realize they are multiplats and were likely paid for exclusively to push the Xbox One X. We got a trailer for a game that was announced longer ago than anything in the Sony conference to mixed reception, and we got an indie reel in a desperate push to prove they still had games coming, where individuals such as yourself mistake quantity for quality and strength of exclusive AAA or even AA content.

I can concede that the new exclusive announcements weren't strong on either side, but I simply can't agree that Microsoft somehow did better when Sony effectively filled an entire hour with almost nothing but trailers, making it all about the games with nothing feeling like a crutch to kill time and fill the hour.

I think we're at a bit of an impass. I would have argued that Sony spent way to long on niche VR content, and that MS had more game time in their (admittedly longer) conference.

At the end of the day we're disagreeing over scraps, neither conference was particularly exciting.



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Louie_86 on 13 June 2017
irstupid said:
monocle_layton said:
Ubisoft was very solid. Not sure what you're talking about. Sony wasn't going above and beyond, but it still felt like a 7/10 performance.


The issue I think is the way EA, Bethesda, Microsoft, and others made their e3. Besides the issues with what was in their presentation, they sometimes focused on irrelevant things



I think everyone should take Nintendo's new route. We saw in the April direct how efficient it is. Regarding what people thought of the content, the presentation was a 10/10. Fast, straight to the point, and gameplay is saved for the treehouse.

Well, besides the two times the dude came out and talked Sony's was basically just trailer after trailer after trailer.

Are you saying that as a bad thing? Because personally Iove it. Wished more companies did it like that.



Jon-Erich on 13 June 2017

This is what people have to understand. With the exception of Nintendo, who just launched a new console, we're at a mid generation point with PS4 and Xbox One. Xbox One X could have been a next gen console and could have launched in 2018 with a lower price, but Microsoft chose not to do that. Virtual Reality didn't exactly set the world on fire. That being said, we're at a point where you're going to be seeing a lot of sequels, especially sequels for the new IPs that launched at the beginning of the 8th generation. We've had plenty of E3's like this before.

O guess we'll have to see what Nintendo has in store for us.



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irstupid on 13 June 2017
Jpcc86 said:
irstupid said:

Well, besides the two times the dude came out and talked Sony's was basically just trailer after trailer after trailer.

Are you saying that as a bad thing? Because personally Iove it. Wished more companies did it like that.

No, I was saying that as a good thing. That sony didn't really waste time on random talking.

But as I said later in my post, I do believe they spent too much time on each trailer/demo/gameplay. 



LuckyTrouble on 13 June 2017
starcraft said:
LuckyTrouble said:

Sony strengthened existing AAA's we knew little about. I won't defend their lack of overall new announcements, but I will praise the positive feedback generated by showing quality gameplay trailers for Spiderman, God of War, and Days Gone. I will praise firmly establishing what Detroit actually is after a relatively ambigious reveal last year. They gave focus to PSVR and announced new IP without making it look gimmicky and showing that PSVR isn't just a passing trend for them. They even managed to genuinely surprise with the SotC remaster/remake announcement. Along with a nice show pre-press conference, Sony focused on the games, gave us much needed details, snuck in a couple announcements, and avoided using indies as a time filling crutch.

Microsoft focused on a piece of hardware that is too ambitious at this time and is going to have a hard time selling at a $500 price point. They showed one new AAA that isn't a new IP. They got rights to first showing of Anthem and Metro Exodus, and that was neat at least until you realize they are multiplats and were likely paid for exclusively to push the Xbox One X. We got a trailer for a game that was announced longer ago than anything in the Sony conference to mixed reception, and we got an indie reel in a desperate push to prove they still had games coming, where individuals such as yourself mistake quantity for quality and strength of exclusive AAA or even AA content.

I can concede that the new exclusive announcements weren't strong on either side, but I simply can't agree that Microsoft somehow did better when Sony effectively filled an entire hour with almost nothing but trailers, making it all about the games with nothing feeling like a crutch to kill time and fill the hour.

I think we're at a bit of an impass. I would have argued that Sony spent way to long on niche VR content, and that MS had more game time in their (admittedly longer) conference.

At the end of the day we're disagreeing over scraps, neither conference was particularly exciting.

Indeed. I disagree on VR at least though. It's necessary to focus on it in the big event and not relegate it to the backburner. Giving it 10 minutes at E3 is probably the minimum to expect going forward if Sony plans on truly supporting the VR as a primary peripheral.

In the end, it wasn't a super exciting E3 though. Like I said, E3 2018 should be better. Hopefully Microsoft goes a bit further next year since, even if they're steadily wiggling out of the console game, they should go out with a bang and not a whimper.



 

Pavolink on 13 June 2017

This feels like any other E3 to me.



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Mbolibombo on 13 June 2017

Ubisoft did better than expected (9/10)
Microsoft did what was expected (7/10)
Ea did what was expected (6/10)
Devolver blew my mind (10/10)
Bethesda did a bit worse than expected (6/10)
Sony did worse than expected (7/10)



HintHRO on 13 June 2017

How can people be satisfied with Sony's press conference? I just woke up and thought the conference hadn't even started yet. There are no new announcements, just a few trailers of games we already know a year about. Where are Death Stranding and The Last of Us 2? Ni no Kuni II gameplay?