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RolStoppable said:
Switch is the future for consoles. Consumers prefer laptops and tablets over desktop PCs, so it only makes sense for consoles to follow this trend.

It's why Nintendo is well-positioned for the future, because they are already there. Microsoft isn't going to care because they are decentralizing Xbox and moving towards games as a service. Sony is the company that will have to think hard how they go about things because they are reliant on AAA third party software, but said software publishers aren't going to be satisfied with the technological limitations that portability brings with it; stick with stationary home consoles to secure support, go the Switch route with reduced support or try to juggle a home console and a hybrid. Needless to say, the last option constitutes a major disadvantage because Nintendo won't have any problems to fend off a halfbaked Sony solution.

Certainly the near-future. It's way too limited in scope to be the entirety of the future.

They're not satifisfied, so they go, where? The industry massively retracts and the flagship franchises just dissapear? Sony and to a lesser extent Xbox are the home of third party games, they are the chain stores that reach the masses . Third parties will follow them, because although you mention Sony needing third parties, the reality is third parties at present, given the direction the industry has taken, also need Sony and MS, or a similar version of them, to reach their audience. They are the safe bet.

By juggling you mean, like the Switch, the future of consoles? And 3 years on, with market trends and comparable hardware to analyse, it will end up being half-baked?



 

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KLAMarine said:

Do sales trends support this? In my house, we have several laptops/tablets and only one PC but that's very much anecdotal. What have sales trends told us?

While I don't agree with a lot of what was said, he is right in that regard. However in a gaming contest I imagine PC being more popular than Laptop. I do not follow/like tablets. 

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/technology/2017/01/11/tablet-sales-fall-third-successive-year-pc-market-stabilises/



 

Acevil said:
KLAMarine said:

Do sales trends support this? In my house, we have several laptops/tablets and only one PC but that's very much anecdotal. What have sales trends told us?

While I don't agree with a lot of what was said, he is right in that regard. However in a gaming contest I imagine PC being more popular than Laptop. I do not follow/like tablets. 

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/technology/2017/01/11/tablet-sales-fall-third-successive-year-pc-market-stabilises/

Interesting article. If it is anything to go by, it seems tablets fell to smart phones which are, in a way, tablets except smaller.

"Sales of tablets rose rapidly just as those of PCs started to decline after Apple’s first iPad was released seven years ago, leading some pundits to suggest the world was entering a “Post-PC” era.

But sales flatlined and then fell as users switched to smartphones with bigger screens as well as holding on to older tablets for longer than expected."

Good to know...



KLAMarine said:
Acevil said:

While I don't agree with a lot of what was said, he is right in that regard. However in a gaming contest I imagine PC being more popular than Laptop. I do not follow/like tablets. 

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/technology/2017/01/11/tablet-sales-fall-third-successive-year-pc-market-stabilises/

Interesting article. If it is anything to go by, it seems tablets fell to smart phones which are, in a way, tablets except smaller.

"Sales of tablets rose rapidly just as those of PCs started to decline after Apple’s first iPad was released seven years ago, leading some pundits to suggest the world was entering a “Post-PC” era.

But sales flatlined and then fell as users switched to smartphones with bigger screens as well as holding on to older tablets for longer than expected."

Good to know...

Ya I picked that article because I want tablets to fail and they have started. Smartphones should really crush them. However Laptops have been over PC this decade. 



 

Yeah, I think the Switch is pretty much the future of gaming. No one ever thought smartphones would overtake dedicated cameras. No one ever thought the house phone would disappear. No one ever thought people would want to watch movies and tv shows on the go, yet look what happened.

Graphics and power will always be number 1, right? Gamers will always want power first and that will never change! There's no way hardcore gamers will sacrifice power for portability, right? Just watch.



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Jpcc86 said:
Hold on, the Switch isn't a console.

Dammit, read the whole OP.

Acevil said:
KLAMarine said:

Interesting article. If it is anything to go by, it seems tablets fell to smart phones which are, in a way, tablets except smaller.

"Sales of tablets rose rapidly just as those of PCs started to decline after Apple’s first iPad was released seven years ago, leading some pundits to suggest the world was entering a “Post-PC” era.

But sales flatlined and then fell as users switched to smartphones with bigger screens as well as holding on to older tablets for longer than expected."

Good to know...

Ya I picked that article because I want tablets to fail and they have started. Smartphones should really crush them. However Laptops have been over PC this decade. 

Tablets haven't really died though... They've just been taken over by smartphones. Smartphones are small tablets in a way.

Paperboy_J said:
Yeah, I think the Switch is pretty much the future of gaming. No one ever thought smartphones would overtake dedicated cameras. No one ever thought the house phone would disappear. No one ever thought people would want to watch movies and tv shows on the go, yet look what happened.

Graphics and power will always be number 1, right? Gamers will always want power first and that will never change! There's no way hardcore gamers will sacrifice power for portability, right? Just watch.

Plenty of gens where the best-selling hardware was NOT the one with the best graphics and power.



Switch can act as 3 portable systems and a home system.

Gaming tablet
Traditional handheld console
Mini-gaming laptop/tabletop
Traditional home console

Add in off screen/joycon only mode and Switch is set for wherever gaming is heading. If touchscreen only games are the future then Nintendo has their own dedicated, higher quality device/games. If smartphones/tablets with blutooth controllers and docks are the future, Nintendo has a head start. If gaming laptops get smaller and built around local multiplayer, Nintendo's only behind on power. If more powerful home-only consoles are the future then Nintendo can lag behind graphically while adding a non-power gimmick to compete, like they're currently doing.



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JRPGfan said:

I think the resolution crap will end with 4k.... it should be a long time until we go higher.
Much rather they spent additional resources on other graphical aspects than just the resolutions.

Maybe at some point in the far far future, a mobile phone can do that stuff.
However I have my doubts.

Why? Physics.
There are laws of physics that could make it impossible to advance that far ahead.
We re reaching the end of how far down we can shrink these chips (ei. 5nm might be as small as we can make things)

Anyways thats a far ways off, and even then, there will be advantages to BIGGER systems, than smaller ones.
Does this mean a Switch 2? is a bad way to go? not at all.

I just dont think thats the route PS5 or XB2 take, or the future of consoles (other than nintendo).

I fear that won't be the case, we already have 8k, who know what will be next after 8k..

 

Paperboy_J said:
Yeah, I think the Switch is pretty much the future of gaming. No one ever thought smartphones would overtake dedicated cameras. No one ever thought the house phone would disappear. No one ever thought people would want to watch movies and tv shows on the go, yet look what happened.

Graphics and power will always be number 1, right? Gamers will always want power first and that will never change! There's no way hardcore gamers will sacrifice power for portability, right? Just watch.

We already have before planty cases where graphics and power are not most important, latest ones are Wii and 3DS, actually this is only generation where power and graphics are important but that just because PS4 offers better power and graphics over XB1 for same price, while in all other things they are identical. Power and graphics are not so important if you have different product that gives you different possibilities and experience.



Nintendo is dont right thing with Switch, in modern age people have less and less time to play at home home console for couple hours, while Switch offers plenty of possibilities of play that suits to different lifestyles of people, and thats future for gaming market (at least for Nintendo).
There is reason why mobile phones and tablets are so much popular while PCs and laptops are in decline.



JRPGfan said:
VGPolyglot said:

Unfortunately, I think that once 4K is established the companies will start promoting 8K. It's like a never ending cycle.

It cant be never ending... at some point screens will be better than our human eye's can perceive.... then it should stop.

4K already reaches that with around 8 million pixels. Human eyes have around 4-5 million cone cells, which can detect color. We have more rod cells (90 million), but these cannot see color (or not much) - the reason we don't see much colors at night. Still, human eyes move around to cover bigger areas. Also the cells aren't distributed uniform, as the pixels on a screen are, they are concentrated in a small area. So, we can still get more from higher resolution - if we pay attention to pixels. The main reason though higher resolutions are made in screens is, that it makes a good advertisment argument: "Buy now the new screen - it has more pixels. And more is always better. "



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