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onionberry said:
hunter_alien said:
Look. The issue is pretty straightforward for me. I will have to pay 400 euros for a switch and a game to be able to have it day one. That is simply to much considering I also game on my PS4/3/Vita, 3DS and PC, so its not only a money but also time constraint. When I can buy the thing with Mario for 300 euros, I will probably take the bait, but until then the price of entry for what it offers is to damn high.

if you read the thread you can see that I'm talking about the price in the united states because the situations is different for a lot of places.

It doesnt really matter because I am used to pay more for systems in Romania. Change it up from 400 euros to 360$ and it would be the same result currently for me, even if my pay would probably be somewhat better. The thing is that currently it does not offer enough incentives for me to buy it at that price. For 250$ with a packed in game I would probably go for it day one, even if the current software lineup is lacking in my eyes a bit.



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hunter_alien said:
onionberry said:

if you read the thread you can see that I'm talking about the price in the united states because the situations is different for a lot of places.

It doesnt really matter because I am used to pay more for systems in Romania. Change it up from 400 euros to 360$ and it would be the same result currently for me, even if my pay would probably be somewhat better. The thing is that currently it does not offer enough incentives for me to buy it at that price. For 250$ with a packed in game I would probably go for it day one, even if the current software lineup is lacking in my eyes a bit.

She's just going to keep telling you your wrong because when you add up the cost of the technology of the switch, it's obviously worth $300, even if you don't think those features justify that price tag to you.



Well....  Onion Berry IS right...  and at the same time...  The Switch IS too expensive.  Does that make sense?

i am looking at this from a viewpoint of:  "you not only need the Switch, you need a game, you need extra joy cons if you want to use the switch to its full capability (4 player Bomberman!), you need the charge grip if you have extra joy cons, you need an extra SD card if your a digital gamer, you need the pro controller if your a hardcore gamer and and on and on and on.

Those accesorie are INSANE.  $79.99 for joy cons, $29.99 for the charge grip, $79.99 for the Pro controller....  Are you kidding me?  Thats $250 for the accesories and a game. I pre-orderd all that stuff and I am seriously considering cancelling my pre-order.  It's that shocking to me.

Now I'm sure my need for the tech will prevail but man it seems like too much.



Totally agreed, especially with the second part. I don't care much about the power of a console. To me personally, the Switch is completely surperior to the PS4 and XOne, just because of its ability to be played as a handheld.

Also, I don't think the accessories aren't that expensive either.
Two joycons are the same price as two Wii controllers were, and now you get two of them with the system.
The pro-controller isn't something you really need since the normal controller is quite similar.
And the dock is indeed expensive, but how many do you need? I didn't even expect that they would sell it separately.



onionberry said:

they sell the whole product, if you don't want a part of the product then that's something that as a consumer you should think and say "well, I just want a home console, so which company offers the best home console" and go for the one that offers what you consider valuable for your money. But you can't expect it to be cheaper because you're not interested in the whole product. If I buy a hot dog the hot dog man is going to sell me the whole thing even if I don't want the bun.

 

I get what you're saying, basically that Nintendo isn't gouging the price of the Switch, and that what it costs to make the Switch is probably reasonably in line with what they're selling it for.

However. The issue here seems to be one of cost vs. value. Namely, that they may have added technology that increased the cost of the system more than it increased it's value.

The origional Xbox One is a great example of this. The Xbox + Kinect bundle wasn't sold at some crazy high profit margin, because the Kinect was an advanced and expensive piece of technology. But! Consumers didn't feel that it added $100 in value to the system, so it was deemed too expensive.

The Switch, to a lesser extent, is in the same boat for two key reasons. If you just want a handheld then the Switch having the ability to plug into a TV doesn't add any value for you, it just adds cost. The same is true of the features that make it portable, if you just want a home console. So, you have two different groups of people who feel the same way about the Switch for the same reason about two different aspects of its design.



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I wish it was $299, but with a game included. That's what I was hoping for when I saw the rumors.



                
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onionberry said:
vivster said:

No it's not. The cost of the product is irrelevant to the consumer. That's why good console manufacturers take a loss on their hardware.

The Switch costs $300 because Nintendo said so and not because it needs to be that price. And people complain because they think that is above their value estimation. It's easy to understand, really.

lol good luck running a bussines, you want profit. "good console" manufacturer like sony sell consoles at lost because they earn profits from third party games and online services, something that Nintendo doesn't have. Nintendo needs to make a profit from consoles and sell the first party games, because that's the core of their business, unlike sony and microsoft. You can't say the value is irrelevant to to consumer because that is not how it works, it's a simple thing and in one basic business class they teach you just that. And thank good that Nintendo doesn't overprice their consoles like other business overprice their products (NIKE) They sell you a device that cost what is worth and enough for them to make profit.

Your whole argument rely on the knowledge of how much the actual console costs to manufacture. 

But you have no idea how much it costs. So your argument, while not completly wrong since a product must be priced in accordance with how much it costs to manufacture, is also based on assumptions. You come off as being [overly] apologetic. Because you have no idea how much it costs Nintendo to manufacture the Switch, and how big their margin is.


Also, people here are customers. Saying "good luck running a business" when you yourself are a customer just like everyone else... It's really something to see someone take the side of a corporation in the manner that you do instead of the side of the customers.



I feel the price point is fair!

I'm sure they will sell as much as they can at this price point and have a $50 drop next year anyway, plus all of the deals and sales for Black Friday and Christmas with Mario bundled in.

Sadly the exchange rate in Canada is causing the system to be $399 :(

I'll wait for a Christmas bundle I think and just put money aside each money until then :)



onionberry said:
bigtakilla said:
Eh, I'll wait for a price cut.

that's smart, I would do the same thing but... I'm a zelda zombie.

I forced myself to pre-order the Wii U version so I wouldn't have to get the Switch yet. Hoping to get a good deal on a Black Friday or Christmas bundle :)

 

I still might buy Zelda Switch then though :D



I personally wait. Its too expensive, germany is about 350€, and the games dont really interest me (3rd party support with a xbox360 port of skyrim? Really?) I had it already. Fifa i play since 14 on ps4. I wait until christmas, then ill get a 250€ bundle including zelda. Btw, who buys a new system in march anyway?