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LipeJJ said:
I love how people are complaining about the $300 price tag. I mean, is $50 THAT much more that you can't pay for it? I mean, they charge $60 for new games.

I'll tell you one thing: it won't be fifty dollars that tell wether the system will take off or sink.

It will be to casuals who make or break consoles. if you're a parent and your kid wants a gaming console, why pick up a Switch with a weak lineup and inferior power over a PS4 or XB1 for the same (or lower) price with 3/4 years worth of games? For us, hardcore fans of our respective consoles, $50 is nothing. For casual buyers, might make all the difference.



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RavenXtra said:
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Maybe, maybe not. We'll see in the coming year.



Launch title games definitely is one of my biggest issues, and them trying to continue with motion controls isn't good

Other games look good, but those two aren't system sellers



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Areym said:
If you don't like Zelda, The Switch at launch isn't for you, it's just that simple. I think this will do better numbers than the Wii U but not by a whole lot.

Even if I was a huge Zelda fan, I'd play it on the WiiU.

Fuck. At this rate I might even buy a WiiU.



LipeJJ said:
I love how people are complaining about the $300 price tag. I mean, is $50 THAT much more that you can't pay for it? I mean, they charge $60 for new games.

I'll tell you one thing: it won't be fifty dollars that tell wether the system will take off or sink.

It's about the perceived value. Not the price itself. For a console that's vastly inferior (in power) compared to it's competion AND being more expensive than them...it's not looking good. I mean Nintendo fans will still buy it and that'll be it. As far at the handheld part goes - how did the 3ds perform at 250$? Yeah, now imagine selling it at 300.



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MohammadBadir said:
Areym said:
If you don't like Zelda, The Switch at launch isn't for you, it's just that simple. I think this will do better numbers than the Wii U but not by a whole lot.

Even if I was a huge Zelda fan, I'd play it on the WiiU.

Fuck. At this rate I might even buy a WiiU.

Shit, you're right, I keep forgetting Zelda is also gonna come out on Wii U. Well played, sneaky nintendo.



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Areym said:
LipeJJ said:
I love how people are complaining about the $300 price tag. I mean, is $50 THAT much more that you can't pay for it? I mean, they charge $60 for new games.

I'll tell you one thing: it won't be fifty dollars that tell wether the system will take off or sink.

It will be to casuals who make or break consoles. if you're a parent and your kid wants a gaming console, why pick up a Switch with a weak lineup and inferior power over a PS4 or XB1 for the same (or lower) price with 3/4 years worth of games? For us, hardcore fans of our respective consoles, $50 is nothing. For casual buyers, might make all the difference.

Are you sure that's how parents shop? I mean, are they aware of hardcore things like power, amount of games, etc? I think they either buy what's cheaper or what their children want... so if the kid wants to play Mario they buy a Nintendo console, but if he/she likes to play CoD, they will buy a PS4/XB1. Besides, parents don't stand for the majority of the market. And like you said, for hardcore gamers $50 mean very little (maybe it can become a 2nd console of choice with that segment, like the Wii).



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Areym said:
LipeJJ said:
I love how people are complaining about the $300 price tag. I mean, is $50 THAT much more that you can't pay for it? I mean, they charge $60 for new games.

I'll tell you one thing: it won't be fifty dollars that tell wether the system will take off or sink.

It will be to casuals who make or break consoles. if you're a parent and your kid wants a gaming console, why pick up a Switch with a weak lineup and inferior power over a PS4 or XB1 for the same (or lower) price with 3/4 years worth of games? For us, hardcore fans of our respective consoles, $50 is nothing. For casual buyers, might make all the difference.

Casuals and kiddies don't give a crap about power. The average person could care less about the difference in power between the Switch, X1 and PS4. That $50 is a far bigger deal to parents than power.



Safiir said:
LipeJJ said:
I love how people are complaining about the $300 price tag. I mean, is $50 THAT much more that you can't pay for it? I mean, they charge $60 for new games.

I'll tell you one thing: it won't be fifty dollars that tell wether the system will take off or sink.

It's about the perceived value. Not the price itself. For a console that's vastly inferior (in power) compared to it's competion AND being more expensive than them...it's not looking good. I mean Nintendo fans will still buy it and that'll be it. As far at the handheld part goes - how did the 3ds perform at 250$? Yeah, now imagine selling it at 300.

It did ok actually, just not great. Sold 3.5m in 5 months during a weak peroid for sales before having the price cut.

Plus, you're comparing 2011 to 2017. Prices changed quite a bit. 3DS also launched without any meaningful title and stayed like that for months until Ocarina of Time 3D came out... and that was a remake. The first meaningful title 3DS got was Super Mario 3D Land at November, 9 months after launch.

The Switch will already have Zelda at launch, which is Nintendo's most anticipated game ever (even according to themselves). Not to mention what comes after...

I'm not saying it will be a success, but we'll have to wait and see before saying it will do bad. People also said Wii would flop.

Plus, you're wrong about it being more expensive than PS4/X1... unless the regular price of them will drop to $250 by March.



Bet with Teeqoz for 2 weeks of avatar and sig control that Super Mario Odyssey would ship more than 7m on its first 2 months. The game shipped 9.07m, so I won

LipeJJ said:
Areym said:

It will be to casuals who make or break consoles. if you're a parent and your kid wants a gaming console, why pick up a Switch with a weak lineup and inferior power over a PS4 or XB1 for the same (or lower) price with 3/4 years worth of games? For us, hardcore fans of our respective consoles, $50 is nothing. For casual buyers, might make all the difference.

Are you sure that's how parents shop? I mean, are they aware of hardcore things like power, amount of games, etc? I think they either buy what's cheaper or what their children want... so if the kid wants to play Mario they buy a Nintendo console, but if he/she likes to play CoD, they will buy a PS4/XB1. Besides, parents don't stand for the majority of the market. And like you said, for hardcore gamers $50 mean very little (maybe it can become a 2nd console of choice with that segment, like the Wii).

Fair enough, I'm not a parent, I can't speak for all of them but kids these days know/care very much about Mario, they care about CoD (sadly enough) so the Marios and the Zeldas will only attract the devoted nintendo fans, which is perfectly fine. As far as the power of the console, you're right, casuals do tend to care little about it as we saw with how much the Wii sold, although that sold on the gimmick of motion controls. I think informed shoppers will be swayed towards the PS4/XB1.

As you said, the kid will decide what console he wants and I just don't see enough potential in the Switch to pull kids into it.



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