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Lafiel said:

btw don't worry, obviously Trump already has a plan

Hahaha. That was perfect. Seriously they voted for a person who sees them as idiots (was it about people in Utah that he said that?) and losers. Funny stuff.



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He doesn't seem very bright.

Is he a VGChartz member?



Sigs are dumb. And so are you!

I would still have two kidneys if the US health care system wasn't so totally fucked up.
I would either be dead or hopelessly in debt right now if it wasn't for "Obamacare"

The reason the system is so totally fucked up is because the US is a plutocracy and we have an unfortunately large group of brain-dead drooling morons (conservatives) who vehemently support it.  These idiots actually believe that if they work hard then one day they will be rich.  Little do they realise that their hard work makes some wealthy jackass who doesn't know the meaning of hard work even wealthier.  I know dozens of those kind of people and it is impossible to reason with them.  They don't want to hear the truth.  They actually believe that the wealthy work as hard as they do!

 



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Seems like a typical Trump fanboy. I almost feel sorry, but stalwart ignorance isn't really a defensible disposition.



I think the issue is the goal of Obamacare makes sense but the mechanics of it are deeply flawed..

Instead of being repealed the plan should be reformed to reduce its negative effects and to ensure its sustainability.

However with both sides in a quasi Civil War right now I highly doubt that.



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Lawlight said:
Isn't Obamacare considered a failure by everyone?

http://arstechnica.com/science/2017/01/amid-record-aca-signups-and-successes-healthcare-fight-intensifies/



LadyJasmine said:
I think the issue is the goal of Obamacare makes sense but the mechanics of it are deeply flawed..

Instead of being repealed the plan should be reformed to reduce its negative effects and to ensure its sustainability.

However with both sides in a quasi Civil War right now I highly doubt that.

If we ever get into a real civil war it will be over before lunch.

 



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RolStoppable said:
That shouldn't come as a surprise. If people were smart, then they wouldn't be this invested in politics to begin with.

It's also not that politics make people stupid, rather it's that the field attracts people who aren't the brightest bulbs in the room to begin with.

Don't know what  politicians in Austria are like , but in Australia ,on the right you have half of them being either second rate Lawyers or carreer politicians who from university to political office, have come up by using a well worn path of working for the party machine or being picked from a govt agency after being put there earlier when their side was last in power, the left side is made up of pretty much the same , second rate lawyers but their  party machine path is through the unions.



RolStoppable said:
Peh said:
It works in germany and other countries. Why can't the us get it to work?

All corporations would have to agree to pay higher salaries for their employees. Usually politicians don't get things done when corporations are against such things, or things move only very slowly forward. Stichwort: Schummelsoftware in Autos von deutschen Konzernen.

In Australia we have universal health care called medicare where a 2% surcharge is charged on a persons tax rate above a certain income level , now this system isn't perfect , it like most systems in the world is struggling to keep up with the expotential increase in medical costs , but it means that all Australians have a saftey net  giving them  access to medical treatment , private insurance unlike the US is mainly handled by employees rather than employers  taking out an individual or family policy with a private insurer pretty much like  any other form of insurance. The attraction of this in a country where every one has a healthcare card is non emergency procedures in public hospitals by shear demand have waiting lists so you may be on a 6 to 12mth wait or longer depending on the type of procedure, the same procedure may be done in a matter of days or weeks with private insurance.

Another side of this is a lot of specialists here work in both the private and public hospital systems, the trade off being in return for letting the specialists use expensive and hard to replicate  facilities available to large public hospitals to treat some of their private patients they in turn do work for the hospital so you may get something like for every private patient they book in at the private rat,   they will treat say 3 public patients at the hospitals at the public rate so the hospital wins by gaining access to top private doctors and surgeons  and the doctors and surgeons get access to the hospitals facilities including theatre staff.



Sorry, but this guy is an idiot. I supported Trump over Hillary, but come on man! I'm not American, and I know the Affordable Care Act is Obamacare...



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