RolStoppable said:
I think police is very cautious to draw a final conclusion, because calling a spade a spade is a very touchy subject when it's not done against whites. |
But he was white, or did he lose his white card when getting the special needs card. I guess you mean the purpetrators aren't supposed to be labeled as such, hate crimes are reserved for white criminals as non whites are already guilty anyway, no need for special modifiers to deny bail and such.
RolStoppable said:
The crime happened in Chicago, so Illinois it is.
Yes, my political agenda is that politicians on all sides lie and can hardly be respected for anything they do. Because of that, I've never gone to an election in my life. Because of that, I am also not going to oblige to people who say that I must choose a political side because of an incident like this. |
So you have a non-political agenda then. Kudos to you. Your place on my pedestal is secure.
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RolStoppable said:
That post made my head spin. I don't know what you are arguing. Here's a recent example: The act of terrorism in Berlin a couple of weeks ago had the police using the word "allegedly" in relation to the culprit even after they had already secured evidence in the form of legal papers and fingerprints left in the cockpit of the truck, as if there was still room for doubt at that point of the investigation. If the culprit belongs to a minority, there's a tendency to refrain or to hesitate from saying how things are. In the case of this thread, there is video evidence for much of the crime and said evidence leaves very little room for doubt that it was a hate crime, unless the legal definitions in Illinois differ greatly from what is commonly regarded as a hate crime. |
I'm glad I could do the same to you for a change :)
That truck could have been stolen, as for Illinois, no clue. There's kidnap and multiple charges of assault anyway. This is from Illinois
https://www.isp.state.il.us/docs/2-421a(01-14).pdf
Before an offense can be reported as a hate crime, sufficient objective facts must be present to lead a reasonable and prudent person to conclude the offender’s actions were motivated by bias. This oftentimes requires an admission by the offender that the motivation for the offense was a personal bias against the victim’s bias group.
Seems the offenders have to say they picked him out specifically and not just as an easy target.
Sickening. Thankfully they're in custody.
| RolStoppable said: The Sun, huh? Isn't that yellow press? |
CPD's twitter page: https://twitter.com/Chicago_Police/status/816803232303509504?s=09
Absolutely disgusting, and mainstream media is barely covering it. Chicago PD saying now it wasn't a race crime.
pathetic
I'm the furthest from a Trump fan, but this is disgusting!!
This is indeed the most vile thing I've seen in a long time. I'm happy to see Lawlight right on top of this stuff. See how many post his thread about the 3 white football players who tortured and sodomized their mentally challenged black teammate got?
http://usflash.org/fortworth/2016/12/22/152780-fort-worth-teen-accused-in-coat-hanger-rape-in-idaho-avoids-prison.html
Thanks Lawlight!
Seriously though, I love how people pick & chose which of these things is "more offensive" or which group is more evil. Please! I find it telling that my local news followed this story with the Dylan Roof trial. It just served to prove that evil walks in all shades. It's also funny to see idiots blame Obama for this and other idiots blame Trump for the influx of white supremacist ideology that's popping up. Screw that! These evil dumb phux all existed long before Obama and Trump. Don't give them an excuse. Obama and Trump aren't to blame for things that have been happening in America for centuries.
Finally, since everyone is waiting for Obama's presser on this I'll do the opposite and wait for the Blue Lives Matter people to go nuts about the 7 white officers who were all killed (within a week) by 5 white men. Didn't catch too much Fox Newsing about those instances. I felt shame, anger, and sadness when I saw the video to the OPs story and I felt the same when I read about the football players. Stop picking sides! The wickedness isn't lesser or more because the perp looks more like you or more like them. GTFOH!!!
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Im surprised Trump hasnt said anything yet. Although im glad he didnt do a silly twitter shitpost at least.
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| celador said: Absolutely disgusting, and mainstream media is barely covering it. Chicago PD saying now it wasn't a race crime. Other way round, black people would have destroyed half of Chicago by now But maybe it's a good thing. Certain groups need to be woken up and come together again |
I don't understand how it isn't a hate crime, they literally said "F*ck white people" as they were savagely attacking him. Wheather they targeted him due to his skin color or mental capacity doesn't make it any less disgusting.
And I agree, a significant portion of the mainstream media would've covered this a lot more throughly if the race was switched, with the starting headlines using a variety of buzzwords like "Trump-supporters", "Alt-righters", "White supremacists", and "Neo-Nazis" even without solid evidence. May the full force of the law fall upon them for commiting such a savage and senseless attack.
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