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No. Any historical movie would be ruined if they force to add diversity into it. The last Zhang Yimou's (one of the best foreign movie directors) movie was ruined because they decided to use matt damon as the main cast. Diversity for the sake of diversity is just pointless.



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The day I make a game is the day a lot of people get triggered, and I won't care because almost all of them wouldn't have bought or wanted to play the game even if it didn't trigger them anyway.

And I wont care what so ever what the games media score it because they're all reundant clickbaiting scumbags.



Soundwave said:
Shiken said:

This^

 

I will pass on Horizon and TLoU2 because I do not like playing as a female, but devs should make the game they want to make.  Like I do not bash them for using female leads, the SJW need to shut their mouths and stop trying to shove their agenda down our throats.

 

All in all, my problem is not with female leads.  It is with how pathetic the SJW generally are on issues that are truly meaningless in the grand scheme of things.

I really don't understand not playing a perfectly good game because the lead is a woman. Like does it really matter?

What would you say to someone who says "well that game looks great, and I want to play it, but the main character is over 6 foot 2, and as a 5 foot 5 person I just can't relate to that person and won't play it"? I bet you'd say they're an idiot. 

Because it breaks the immersion for me.  I am a male and have no desire to identify as a female in anything, including gaming.  I have tried other good games with female leads, but never complete them because I lose interest due to lack of immersion.  It is personal preference, and denying that is a major reason why SJW sound so damn retarded.

 

In their mind, if you do not see things their way you are a bigot/sexist/religious extremist.  I do not see it this way.  I will not give my money to Horizon or TLoU2 because I know I will not enjoy the game because of their design choice, but I do not fault them for it.  Nor do I fault a female gamer who would pass on Uncharted but play every Tomb Raider game ever to be released.

 

That is the difference.

Jpcc86 said:
Shiken said:

All in all, my problem is not with female leads.  It is with how pathetic the SJW generally are on issues that are truly meaningless in the grand scheme of things.

The why should you pass on games that may very well be amazing? Neither Horizon or TLOU2 have a female lead because of "sjw", they are originally designed that way

You are right, they do not seem to cater to SJW, however that does not solve my issue.  My issue is that I cannot immerse myself in a game where I portray a female.  As I said above, tried it many times and it always bores me.

 

It is all personal preference my friend.  I do not bash the devs for portrayal of their vision for a game.  However they will not get my money either as I will not spend it on something I know I will not like, regardless of what the general population thinks of the games.



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Shiken said:

Because it breaks the immersion for me.  I am a male and have no desire to identify as a female in anything, including gaming.  I have tried other good games with female leads, but never complete them because I lose interest due to lack of immersion.  It is personal 

We think the exact opposite way on that one.  I would rather be looking at a female ass on a third person game than a male ass the whole time myself.



Of course it could be a valid criticism! But that doesn't mean we have to go overboard in the other direction as well, but we need to acknowledge that people come in all kinds of shape, sizes, colors, genders and sexual orientation, and why shouldn't movies and games portrait that?



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Neodegenerate said:
Shiken said:

Because it breaks the immersion for me.  I am a male and have no desire to identify as a female in anything, including gaming.  I have tried other good games with female leads, but never complete them because I lose interest due to lack of immersion.  It is personal 

We think the exact opposite way on that one.  I would rather be looking at a female ass on a third person game than a male ass the whole time myself.

To each their own.  When I want to look at a female ass, I just go to pornhub, but thats just me.  😜



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90%+ of game character's are white, anyone trying to spin it as anything otherwise is reaching hard. 

And if these characters are what is considered "Asian"

Then I'm Bruce Lee. 

Some games have the "token minority" character, the only games that off the top of my head I could think of where white characters (in games where there are humanoid characters) are a minority would be NBA and NFL games for obvious reasons. 

Again this doesn't specifically bother me that much, but at the same time, sure some greater diversity would be welcomed. 90% of the people buying games sure as hell aren't white, so why should the characters be. 



Soundwave said:

90%+ of game character's are white, anyone trying to spin it as anything otherwise is reaching hard. 

And if these characters are what is considered "Asian"

Then I'm Bruce Lee. 

I am going to hit you with the same reply you gave me earlier...

 

"Does it really matter?"  😉



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Shiken said:
Soundwave said:

90%+ of game character's are white, anyone trying to spin it as anything otherwise is reaching hard. 

And if these characters are what is considered "Asian"

Then I'm Bruce Lee. 

I am going to hit you with the same reply you gave me earlier...

 

"Does it really matter?"  😉

It doesn't matter that much to me, I'm just saying a little diversity wouldn't hurt, not when the actual demographics of game buyers is fairly diverse. 



Soundwave said:
Shiken said:

I am going to hit you with the same reply you gave me earlier...

 

"Does it really matter?"  😉

It doesn't matter that much to me, I'm just saying a little diversity wouldn't hurt, not when the actual demographics of game buyers is fairly diverse. 

I hear ya on that.  I may not like playing as a female, but I have no problem playing as a black, asian, white, russian, Hispanic, non-human, etc as long as the character is male.  That is just how my mind works for some reason lol.

 

But yes, racial diversity is always welcome.  There are MANY different races amongst gamers, and while race has no affect on me, it could affect someone else the same way females characters do me.



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